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| Author: | oredds [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Great beast of gorgoroth |
For those of you who have read the GBoG profile in the WD, any idea why the beast has a shoot value? Is it for the rock that one of the orcs is holding? Hmmm... Also I hope they give him a hero commander like the Mumak. Seems he would be a bit vulnerable without might. |
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| Author: | Raukov [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Great beast of gorgoroth |
All but one of those orcs are archers, I assume they all use the model's shoot value for simplicity's sake. |
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| Author: | PippinMeatShield [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Great beast of gorgoroth |
is it 5+ or 4+ |
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| Author: | oredds [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Great beast of gorgoroth |
Higher than 5+ |
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| Author: | fritskuhntm [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 5:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Great beast of gorgoroth |
It is not a hero, in the example army in the WD it was in the same warband as the nazgul and you can have only one hero in a warband. |
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| Author: | Battalia [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Great beast of gorgoroth |
Does the one with a spear actually spear support for the beast? I read the WD but it didn't say. |
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| Author: | oredds [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Great beast of gorgoroth |
The orc with the spear is just driving the beast. I don't believe he has any attack of his own unless the best dies and he survives the fall - then he can fight with his spear. fritskuhntm wrote: It is not a hero, in the example army in the WD it was in the same warband as the nazgul and you can have only one hero in a warband. I wasn't saying the beast was a hero - I was saying you should be able to have a special hero that can sit on the beast to drive it and use might points to allow the beast to make heroic moves etc. |
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| Author: | oredds [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Great beast of gorgoroth |
Raukov wrote: All but one of those orcs are archers, I assume they all use the model's shoot value for simplicity's sake. I don't think this is the case because the beast's shoot value is worse than the orcs'. No where else do riders on a mount become worse archers - it would be easier to shoot off the back of the beast than a horse or a warg! |
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| Author: | PippinMeatShield [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Great beast of gorgoroth |
oredds wrote: The orc with the spear is just driving the beast. I don't believe he has any attack of his own unless the best dies and he survives the fall - then he can fight with his spear. fritskuhntm wrote: It is not a hero, in the example army in the WD it was in the same warband as the nazgul and you can have only one hero in a warband. I wasn't saying the beast was a hero - I was saying you should be able to have a special hero that can sit on the beast to drive it and use might points to allow the beast to make heroic moves etc. The spear looks too big for the orc Spear to use imo. I think its going to be like Crude Throwing Spear where it cant be used if dismounted. |
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| Author: | oredds [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Great beast of gorgoroth |
PippinMeatShield wrote: The spear looks too big for the orc Spear to use imo. I think its going to be like Crude Throwing Spear where it cant be used if dismounted. Nope, not according to the description: "The Great Beast of Gorgoroth consists of the Great Beast itself, an Orc Warrior rider with a spear and nine Orc Warrior passengers with Orc bows." |
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| Author: | Sticky Fingersss [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Great beast of gorgoroth |
Well the beast definetly has no range attack so it must be an error, or the orcs have some disadvantage. maybe the beast isn't as stable as the other mounts? I agree that the orc with the spear has no shoot value and is simply the 'commander' even if they are no rules for a commander. |
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| Author: | PippinMeatShield [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Great beast of gorgoroth |
oredds wrote: PippinMeatShield wrote: The spear looks too big for the orc Spear to use imo. I think its going to be like Crude Throwing Spear where it cant be used if dismounted. Nope, not according to the description: "The Great Beast of Gorgoroth consists of the Great Beast itself, an Orc Warrior rider with a spear and nine Orc Warrior passengers with Orc bows." but it's the size of a pike |
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| Author: | GothmogtheWerewolf [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Great beast of gorgoroth |
Thats because it needs to reach down the Beast's back. |
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| Author: | Harfoot [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Great beast of gorgoroth |
is anyone rich enough to buy a load of these and make Grond? |
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| Author: | PippinMeatShield [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Great beast of gorgoroth |
GothmogtheWerewolf wrote: Thats because it needs to reach down the Beast's back. what if the beast is dead or he fell off |
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| Author: | Sacrilege83 [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Great beast of gorgoroth |
Harfoot wrote: is anyone rich enough to buy a load of these and make Grond? I'm interested in seeing that. I would also like to see a size comparison of the Beast next to a Dragon or a Mumakil. If you want to make Grond, you'll need 3 or 4 of these Gorgoroth Beasts pulling it. I guess no one here would know if they made rules for Grond in their new Mordor sourcebook huh? That way we could just wait on a model to be released. If I had money to blow away on such a project, I would just end up getting two Great Beasts, use the orcs and howdahs for Grond instead. |
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| Author: | Battalia [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Great beast of gorgoroth |
Harfoot wrote: is anyone rich enough to buy a load of these and make Grond? My questions is someone rich enough to have built a big enough fortress to need a grond to breach it? lol |
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| Author: | oredds [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Great beast of gorgoroth |
PippinMeatShield wrote: GothmogtheWerewolf wrote: Thats because it needs to reach down the Beast's back. what if the beast is dead or he fell off The wargear states it is a spear - even though a long one. Presumably it can be picked up and used as a spear. Just use a spear-armed model to represent him. It doesn't matter if the size does not match. |
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| Author: | Oldman Willow [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 9:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Great beast of gorgoroth |
Quote: My questions is someone rich enough to have built a big enough fortress to need a grond to breach it? lol It cost less than a cheep set of golf clubs. You will find that there are a number of members that have large forts.   If you would like to see more click on the thumbnail When I see the model I will decide how many I want and how to build Grond. I am not sure I like the one from the movie. |
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| Author: | Harfoot [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 10:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Great beast of gorgoroth |
Wow, its got to be in America? |
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