All times are UTC


It is currently Tue Sep 17, 2024 6:02 pm



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 28 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Balin and Dain, Same Model?
PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:46 pm 
Elven Warrior
Elven Warrior
Offline

Joined: Wed Dec 30, 2009 7:20 pm
Posts: 720
Location: Norwich, Great Britain
Hey guys, just a quick observation that I wondered if anyone else had noticed.

If you look at the Blain and Dain sculpts, the torso, much of the head, armour and arms are identical.

Do you think this is just because they are royalty are so have similar equipment, or did GW just adjust one of the sculpts to make the other?

Linky.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catal ... od1500384a

_________________
Sun is by sea-men always hoped for,
when they fare away over the fishes' bath,
until the brine-stallion they bring to land.
OERP
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Balin and Dain, Same Model?
PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:48 pm 
Elven Elder
Elven Elder
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:04 pm
Posts: 6308
Location: Wandering around looking for Middle-earth
Images: 58
It's not the only model in which they reused the base mold of another model. So yes they adjusted the sculpt of ne to make the other. Have a look ariound, and you may notice some of the others.

_________________
"I am the Flying Spagetti Monster. Thou shall have no other monsters before me"
-FSM.
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Balin and Dain, Same Model?
PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:51 pm 
Elven Warrior
Elven Warrior
Offline

Joined: Wed Dec 30, 2009 7:20 pm
Posts: 720
Location: Norwich, Great Britain
Do you know any off the top off your head without making me search? Hahaha. :P

_________________
Sun is by sea-men always hoped for,
when they fare away over the fishes' bath,
until the brine-stallion they bring to land.
OERP
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Balin and Dain, Same Model?
PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:03 pm 
Kinsman
Kinsman
Offline

Joined: Sun Mar 23, 2008 10:05 pm
Posts: 143
Mahur - Kings Champion
rohan Bowman - orc Bowman

The majority of the Woodelf Warriors.
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Balin and Dain, Same Model?
PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:28 pm 
Elven Elder
Elven Elder
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:04 pm
Posts: 6308
Location: Wandering around looking for Middle-earth
Images: 58
Khandish axes and axes of Lossonarch are the same.

Serpent Guards have same lower armour as Dain and Balin.

The horses of Amdur, new Suladan and Khandish Chieftain are the same.

One of the Morannon Orcs is based of 2 of the Haradrim.

The rare Mordor Uruk-hai and one of the new Mordor Uruk-hai come from one of the Uruk-hai Beserkers.

A Khanish Warrior and Lossonarch axeman have the same pose as another Beserker.

Several of the Dunedain are the same as other Dunedain.

Most archers use same base poses.

Haradrim Raider horses from Rohan horses.

Some of the named Ringwraiths come from basic Ringwraiths and/or each other.

If I remember more, I will tell you.

_________________
"I am the Flying Spagetti Monster. Thou shall have no other monsters before me"
-FSM.
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Balin and Dain, Same Model?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:25 am 
Craftsman
Craftsman
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:21 pm
Posts: 370
Location: Sunny, sexy Spain!
Haradrim king's horse and Aragorn's are exactly the same, and every plastic horse from any set are all the same; just with extra armour and whatnot.

_________________
I'm the good and the bad; you must be the ugly
I'd mess up your face but your momma did it for me!
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Balin and Dain, Same Model?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:27 am 
Craftsman
Craftsman
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:21 pm
Posts: 370
Location: Sunny, sexy Spain!
GothmogtheWerewolf wrote:
Khandish axes and axes of Lossonarch are the same.

Serpent Guards have same lower armour as Dain and Balin.

The horses of Amdur, new Suladan and Khandish Chieftain are the same.

One of the Morannon Orcs is based of 2 of the Haradrim.

The rare Mordor Uruk-hai and one of the new Mordor Uruk-hai come from one of the Uruk-hai Beserkers.

A Khanish Warrior and Lossonarch axeman have the same pose as another Beserker.

Several of the Dunedain are the same as other Dunedain.

Most archers use same base poses.

Haradrim Raider horses from Rohan horses.

Some of the named Ringwraiths come from basic Ringwraiths and/or each other.

If I remember more, I will tell you.

How can you compare man sized models with dwarf sized figures? The Serpent guard and Mauhur are not the same as The Champion and Balin and Dain; just slightly similiar!

_________________
I'm the good and the bad; you must be the ugly
I'd mess up your face but your momma did it for me!
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Balin and Dain, Same Model?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:33 pm 
Elven Elder
Elven Elder
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:04 pm
Posts: 6308
Location: Wandering around looking for Middle-earth
Images: 58
MeatBoy1994 wrote:
Haradrim king's horse and Aragorn's are exactly the same, and every plastic horse from any set are all the same; just with extra armour and whatnot.


Not every horse, just most of the plastic ones.

Some of the metal ones are sculpted to the rider, but as I said eg Suladan/Amdur Khand Chief, some use the same sculpt.

With the Serpent Guards and Dwarf Lords, the lower armour is exactly the same, Dwarves are much wider in proportion to humans. Mauhur and the Champion are not my probem.

_________________
"I am the Flying Spagetti Monster. Thou shall have no other monsters before me"
-FSM.
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Balin and Dain, Same Model?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:13 pm 
Kinsman
Kinsman
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:19 pm
Posts: 188
Location: York
Wood Elf Sentinels and the old Lothlorien Elves
Many of the plastic sculps are similar (eg WoMT)

_________________
Visit my blog: whoistheodoreus.blogspot.co.uk
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Balin and Dain, Same Model?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 6:21 pm 
Wayfarer
Wayfarer
Offline

Joined: Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:56 pm
Posts: 42
Fishlegs wrote:
Wood Elf Sentinels and the old Lothlorien Elves


- are nothing alike?

You guys are exaggerating, very few are based on the same model, apart from Dain and Balin, horses, and that most plastic set use the same "main body". (I doubt the guy sculpting WOMT bothered spending his time sculpting the same armour 12 times :wink: ) But yes some models are very similar, and some are inspired by others.

One thing that's kinda cool, is that there was one sculptor (can't remember the name of who it was) who sculpted nearly every single hero with the same pose. :lol: I could only find one after a quick look-through on the GW page though, Faramir. (http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catal ... rod1130308) But I remember several discontinued models with the exact same pose, Haldir and Saruman comes to mind.
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Balin and Dain, Same Model?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:46 pm 
Elven Elder
Elven Elder
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:04 pm
Posts: 6308
Location: Wandering around looking for Middle-earth
Images: 58
Agree on Elves, the metal Haldir's Elves had male bodies whilst the Sentinels have female bodies.

However there are many others. And lots of duplicates of the same one or two poses.

_________________
"I am the Flying Spagetti Monster. Thou shall have no other monsters before me"
-FSM.
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Balin and Dain, Same Model?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:49 pm 
Elven Warrior
Elven Warrior
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:38 am
Posts: 555
Location: Hull, UK
The sentinels and the Wood Elf command.

_________________
++ THE VANUS TEMPLE ++
Contact for commissions!
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Balin and Dain, Same Model?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:59 am 
Wayfarer
Wayfarer
Offline

Joined: Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:55 am
Posts: 6
Also Murin/Drar, cant remember which has the bow, is the same model as the old metal dwarf archer but with a bit of mail.
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Balin and Dain, Same Model?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:35 am 
Craftsman
Craftsman
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:24 pm
Posts: 290
Location: Wanaka, Central Otago, New Zealand
Not 100% sure on this, but I believe mounted Undying and mounted Gandalf the Grey share a horse /part of their body

_________________
http://bdhobbymadness.blogspot.co.nz/

May the wind under your wings bear you to where the sun sails and the moon walks!
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Balin and Dain, Same Model?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:56 am 
Elven Warrior
Elven Warrior
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sat Jun 04, 2011 8:28 pm
Posts: 604
Location: Hungary
Wow, this is a huge conspiracy here.
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Balin and Dain, Same Model?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:56 pm 
Elven Warrior
Elven Warrior
Offline

Joined: Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:24 pm
Posts: 666
Why shouldn't they?
It keeps the cost low.

There are so many miniatures that look alike.

The used to make the miniatures out of green stuff, armatures and other objects.
Now they sculpt them via a computer program. (correct me if I'm wrong)
But once you have a basic component you can re-use it however you want.
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Balin and Dain, Same Model?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 7:21 pm 
Elven Warrior
Elven Warrior
Offline

Joined: Sat Feb 03, 2007 7:51 pm
Posts: 648
Location: Hoboken, Belgium
Malbeth and the undying.

_________________
"Mickey, my friend!"
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Balin and Dain, Same Model?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 10:52 pm 
Elven Warrior
Elven Warrior
Offline

Joined: Wed Dec 30, 2009 7:20 pm
Posts: 720
Location: Norwich, Great Britain
Amarthadan wrote:
Malbeth and the undying.


Their poses appear to be the opposite of each...other rather than the same.

Thanks for all the replies above, I knew some of the things mentioned, like horses, but I didn't think people would suggest that, as its common knowledge its the same model.

Not sure about King's champion and Mahur though...I think there just a similar pose, and that there are very few that are nearly the exact same sculpt with just the head or arms changed, like Dain and Balin.

Still, I'd be interested if there is anything else. :)

_________________
Sun is by sea-men always hoped for,
when they fare away over the fishes' bath,
until the brine-stallion they bring to land.
OERP
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Balin and Dain, Same Model?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:47 pm 
Elven Elder
Elven Elder
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Thu Jun 23, 2011 3:04 pm
Posts: 6308
Location: Wandering around looking for Middle-earth
Images: 58
The Rare '4th' Mordor Uruk-hai is the same as one of the Uruk-hai Beserkers.

_________________
"I am the Flying Spagetti Monster. Thou shall have no other monsters before me"
-FSM.
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Balin and Dain, Same Model?
PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:24 am 
Elven Warrior
Elven Warrior
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:20 pm
Posts: 982
Location: Boston, U.S.A.
It would be great if Balin and Dain had different poses. We'll have to wait until the Hobbit movie.
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 28 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 322 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to: