700 pts Isengard army SBG

fritskuhntm · **Posted:** Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:45 pm

I'm going to battle a friend in a couple of days.
He's taking elves and I was going to take Isengard, here's the list

700 pts Isengard.

Isengard raiders:
-Lurtz

legions of the white hand:
-urek-hai shaman
-15 urek-hai warriors with shield
-15 urek-hai warriors with pike
-5 urek-hai with crossbows
-10 urek-hai scouts with orc bows
-5 orc warriors (with no equipment)

the nazgul:
-the shadow lord

53 units, 6 might, 15 bow shots

thoughts?

GuardianoftheCitadel · **Joined:** Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:06 pm **Posts:** 193

fritskuhntm wrote:

I'm going to battle a friend in a couple of days.
He's taking elves and I was going to take Isengard, here's the list

700 pts Isengard.

Isengard raiders:
-Lurtz

legions of the white hand:
-urek-hai shaman
-15 urek-hai warriors with shield
-15 urek-hai warriors with pike
-5 urek-hai with crossbows
-10 urek-hai scouts with orc bows
-5 orc warriors (with no equipment)

the nazgul:
-the shadow lord

53 units, 6 might, 15 bow shots

thoughts?

Well first I would like to say it's Uruk.

Also, the Orc Warriors? I would remove them and give the Shadow Lord a horse or something like that.

Dream27 · **Joined:** Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:00 pm **Posts:** 32

Berserkers? As you have the Shadow Lord you will be able to get them in unhindered from bow fire and once in close combat they will destory the elves. Also is there a drum for the Uruk's of the white hand? If so it may be worth taking one. Also remember you can fight with two pikes supporting a single model so you can get in your 3 attacks it might be worth trying to form a pike block. The shaman is a good choice. What type of elves is your friend taking?

Hilbert · **Joined:** Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:07 am **Posts:** 2088

I would remove the orcs to add some Uruk-hais or even a horse for shadow lord...
I see you will use him as a shield for arrows...
The shaman would be also useful... :-D

fritskuhntm · **Posted:** Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:01 am

how about this:

Isengard raiders:
-Lurtz

legions of the white hand:
-uruk-hai shaman
-10 uruk-hai warriors with shield
-10 uruk-hai warriors with pike
-5 uruk-hai with crossbows
-11 uruk-hai scouts with orc bows
-3 uruk-hai beserkers
-10 orc warriors with shield and spear

the nazgul:
-the shadow lord

52 units, 6 might, 15 bow shots

GuardianoftheCitadel · **Joined:** Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:06 pm **Posts:** 193

fritskuhntm wrote:

how about this:

Isengard raiders:
-Lurtz

legions of the white hand:
-uruk-hai shaman
-10 uruk-hai warriors with shield
-10 uruk-hai warriors with pike
-5 uruk-hai with crossbows
-11 uruk-hai scouts with orc bows
-3 uruk-hai beserkers
-10 orc warriors with shield and spear

the nazgul:
-the shadow lord

52 units, 6 might, 15 bow shots

Seems good to me. I cannot remember the Shoot Value of Uruk-Hai Scouts but if it's 4+ then they are a worthy addition. What are the orcs for, to increases numbers?

Hilbert · **Joined:** Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:07 am **Posts:** 2088

The orcs with spears could be great help at battles.

GuardianoftheCitadel · **Joined:** Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:06 pm **Posts:** 193

Hilbert wrote:

The orcs with spears could be great help at battles.

Ofcourse! I forgot the rule about spear support, how stupid of me. :rofl:

Hilbert · **Joined:** Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:07 am **Posts:** 2088

It's okay, so the Uruks attack and as they have a high fight value and also spear support it will be hard to lost the battle

GuardianoftheCitadel · **Joined:** Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:06 pm **Posts:** 193

Hilbert wrote:

It's okay, so the Uruks attack and as they have a high fight value and also spear support it will be hard to lose the battle

yeah, but the one downside is they will have a lower defence so they may be a target for archers?

Hilbert · **Joined:** Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:07 am **Posts:** 2088

And here comes the shadow lord. :-D

GuardianoftheCitadel · **Joined:** Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:06 pm **Posts:** 193

Hilbert wrote:

And here comes the shadow lord. :-D

God, I really got to read his list thoroughly before posting I never saw the Shadow Lord bit of the list. *facepalm*.

Hilbert · **Joined:** Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:07 am **Posts:** 2088

It's really a good tactic

GuardianoftheCitadel · **Joined:** Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:06 pm **Posts:** 193

Hilbert wrote:

It's really a good tactic

yeah, I think this army is pretty much settled. I am guessing that it is the Isengard Raiders list that is being used, if so if he wants Cavalry he could add a few Warg Riders. Could make a difference having a more mobile unit and if the rider is killed there is a chance the Warg will stay and fight.

Hilbert · **Joined:** Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:07 am **Posts:** 2088

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and if the rider is killed there is a chance the Warg will stay and fight.

And that's the difference between horses and wargs :-D

GuardianoftheCitadel · **Joined:** Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:06 pm **Posts:** 193

Hilbert wrote:

Quote:

and if the rider is killed there is a chance the Warg will stay and fight.

And that's the difference between horses and wargs :-D

Yeah, i've never understood why the horses can't have an attack and kick opponents or whatever :rofl:

Anyway, the option to add cavalry is a great asset to any army, which the likes of Drawves and Arnor armies are lacking.

Hilbert · **Joined:** Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:07 am **Posts:** 2088

Yes riders would be a big power... Something like this:
Isengard raiders:
-Lurtz
-4 warg riders with shields

legions of the white hand:
-uruk-hai shaman
-10 uruk-hai warriors with shield
-10 uruk-hai warriors with pike
-11 uruk-hai scouts with orc bows
-3 uruk-hai beserkers
-9 orc warriors with shield and spear

the nazgul:
-the shadow lord

52 units, 6 might, 10 bow shots

GuardianoftheCitadel · **Joined:** Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:06 pm **Posts:** 193

Hilbert wrote:

Yes riders would be a big power... Something like this:
Isengard raiders:
-Lurtz
-4 warg riders with shields

legions of the white hand:
-uruk-hai shaman
-10 uruk-hai warriors with shield
-10 uruk-hai warriors with pike
-11 uruk-hai scouts with orc bows
-3 uruk-hai beserkers
-9 orc warriors with shield and spear

the nazgul:
-the shadow lord

52 units, 6 might, 11 bow shots

Fixed it for you.

whafrog · **Posted:** Wed Jul 27, 2011 3:09 pm

Lurtz isn't that great. Sharku is better for leading wargs, and Ugluk or Vrasku would be better for infantry.

Hilbert · **Joined:** Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:07 am **Posts:** 2088

Personally i prefer Lurtz.I like more him.

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