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A Basic Fiefdom Army (500pt)
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Author:  Raggbur [ Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:48 pm ]
Post subject:  A Basic Fiefdom Army (500pt)
When the plastic swans were released, I bought a box with the idea of ones starting an expensive fiefdom army. Now, whith some conversions in mind, I was thinking such an army isn't as far-fetched as I thought, and that it doesn't really have to be so expensive either. So I came up with the following basic 500pt list, and some tactics to go with them:
Army List
Heroes
Imrahil of Dol Amroth ------------- 135

Warriors
14 Knights of Dol Amroth --------- 126
13 Rangers of Gondor ------------- 117
with spears
13 Men-At-Arms ------------------- 117
______________________________________
Points: 495
Models: 41
Might: 3

Basic Tactics

K_K_K_K_K_K_I_K_K_K_K_K_K
K R_R_R_R_R_R_R_R_R_R_R_R K
M_M_M_M_M_M_M_M_M_M_M_M

So, every knight will be supported by a ranger and a pike. Between every knight will be a space of 1", to avoid trapping. Imrahil will be in the middle, making sure everyone is within range of Dol Amroth for Gondor. 2 knights on the flanks will fill in gaps of the front line.
The strategy will be to stand back and shoot the enemy to pieces with 3+ rangers. When they get close, they'll meet 3 F4/D6 attacks along the line!

What do you think ?
Author:  Hilbert [ Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A Basic Fiefdom Army (500pt)
Very good tactic... But I prefer to get the knights in first line then pikes then rangers... 8)
Author:  fritskuhntm [ Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A Basic Fiefdom Army (500pt)
good army and tactic, but if your keeping every-body 1" apart the rangers won't be able to volley.
so just keep them together until the enemy arrives. 8)
Author:  fritskuhntm [ Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A Basic Fiefdom Army (500pt)
Hilbert wrote:
Very good tactic... But I prefer to get the knights in first line then pikes then rangers... 8)


but then the knights won't get spear support from the rangers.
Author:  Raggbur [ Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A Basic Fiefdom Army (500pt)
(1) My knight are in the first line
(2) Why would you put the rangers behind the pikes ?
Author:  Raggbur [ Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A Basic Fiefdom Army (500pt)
fritskuhntm wrote:
good army and tactic, but if your keeping every-body 1" apart the rangers won't be able to volley.
so just keep them together until the enemy arrives. 8)


Yes, forgot about volley. Thx 8)
Author:  Hilbert [ Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A Basic Fiefdom Army (500pt)
Oh sorry forgot the pike rule that need two for support... :oops:
Then you have a good atctic but what if fast cavalry coems from behind? 8)
Author:  Raggbur [ Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A Basic Fiefdom Army (500pt)
Behind ? They'd probably be almost against the table edge :-D
Author:  General Elessar [ Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A Basic Fiefdom Army (500pt)
Good tactics, even if a bit boring.

I wouldn't bother with the one-inch gaps; you'll have the equivalent of four attacks to win the fight, so it shouldn't be a problem.
Author:  Raggbur [ Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A Basic Fiefdom Army (500pt)
Because most Tournaments here are 750pt, I tried to convert it to 750pts.

Army List
Heroes
Imrahil of Dol Amroth ------------- 135
Allied: Beregrond ------------------ 31
on horse

Warriors
16 Knights of Dol Amroth --------- 144
13 Rangers of Gondor ------------- 117
with spears
13 Men-At-Arms ------------------- 117
Allied: 8 KoMT --------------------- 112
Allied: Bolt Thrower --------------- 90
Swift Reload

______________________________________
Points: 746
Models: 54
Might: 4

Xtra Tactics
KoMT for flanking / taking out other cavalery / attacking stay-behind units
Beregrond to make sure they'll charge
Bolt thrower to kill heroes and elites

I have to say I'm less sure about this one... Any advice ?
Author:  Hilbert [ Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A Basic Fiefdom Army (500pt)
Very sure...This one will be really good
It isn't 647 :lol:
Author:  Raggbur [ Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A Basic Fiefdom Army (500pt)
Alright... 646
Author:  Hilbert [ Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A Basic Fiefdom Army (500pt)
It is 728
Author:  Raggbur [ Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A Basic Fiefdom Army (500pt)
No... Net yet... Damn... To early here in Belgium.
Oh, now I see it. I upgraded the swan knights to 16, so its 144, not 126 (I copied the 500pt list but forgot to add 2 off these)

Then it makes the total of 746 (not 646)
Author:  Hilbert [ Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A Basic Fiefdom Army (500pt)
Okay... Your tactic is great thought always some changes would be doen in the course of the battle... 8)
Author:  Raggbur [ Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A Basic Fiefdom Army (500pt)
Yes... Could this be a winning tournament army ?
Author:  Hilbert [ Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:09 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A Basic Fiefdom Army (500pt)
Yeah It could be... The only promblem now would be if a Nazgul threw magics at Imrahil... But as you have Beregond is more easy to stand... 8)
Author:  Raggbur [ Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A Basic Fiefdom Army (500pt)
Yes... Didn't think about the fact that imrahil is still vulnerable for magic and bow-fire...
Author:  SuicidalMarsbar [ Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A Basic Fiefdom Army (500pt)
I would replace beregond for faramir with bow so that you have more might. I would also swap the KoMt for legolas on horseback/more numbers. When it comes to ringwraiths the bolt thrower could either kill them or remove whatever models they are hiding behind before the wraith gets close enough.
Author:  Raggbur [ Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A Basic Fiefdom Army (500pt)
Sorry, but 3 powerful named heroes in just a 750pt list, just for might. No, that's not my way
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