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| Author: | Tzeentchling9 [ Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | 250pt Angmar Staff challenge |
The local shop is going to do a Staff challenge. You play a 250pt game against each of the three staffers and get bragging rights if you beat them all without losing. I think you have to keep the same list through out and I want to use my Angmar. I was thinking of maybe this list: Barrow-wight 50pts 4xOrc Trackers 20pts 2xOrcs w/Shields 12pts 3xOrcs w/Spears 18pts 2xOrcs w/Two-handed Weapons 12pts Spectre 15pts Barrow-wight 50pts 3xOrc Trackers 15pts 2xOrcs w/Shields 12pts 3xOrcs w/Spears 18pts Orc w/Two-handed Weapon 6pts Orc w/Two-handed Weaponand Shields 7pts Spectre 15pts 250pts Certainly lots of bodies , but maybe not hitty enough? |
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| Author: | cereal_theif [ Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 250pt Angmar Staff challenge |
Drop the trackers and get more orcs. Shooting isn't so promenant any more in my opinion |
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| Author: | GothmogtheWerewolf [ Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 250pt Angmar Staff challenge |
No don't listen to the above, Trackers are better than Orc archers and cost less, keep them, they arguably the best things in your list I think. |
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| Author: | BizzareWarstar [ Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 250pt Angmar Staff challenge |
Perhaps an Orc Captain instead of one of the Barrow-wights for a bit of punch ? you could put him on a warg or give him a shield and bow. A Wraith instead of a Barrow-wight for an extra 5pts might do it either. The THW in your second warband cant be armed with a shield unfortunately. |
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| Author: | cereal_theif [ Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 250pt Angmar Staff challenge |
I didnt mean take orc archers, I mean TAKE MORE ORCS. Bows are seriously nerfed now and having 7 evil bows probably isn't worth it when you can have 5 or 6 orcs instead to take it to the enemy. |
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| Author: | GothmogtheWerewolf [ Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 250pt Angmar Staff challenge |
But the trackers cost less so you can have more models. |
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| Author: | Draugluin [ Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 250pt Angmar Staff challenge |
cereal_theif wrote: I didnt mean take orc archers, I mean TAKE MORE ORCS. Bows are seriously nerfed now and having 7 evil bows probably isn't worth it when you can have 5 or 6 orcs instead to take it to the enemy. They aren't any worse than they used to be. |
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| Author: | cereal_theif [ Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 250pt Angmar Staff challenge |
You look at the set up for most missions and tell me how it isn't worse for your bows?? MOST missions have some sort of random set up OR you begin very close anyway. Either option is not great for bows unless mounted. |
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| Author: | Draugluin [ Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 250pt Angmar Staff challenge |
Only half your troops will end up close, so if you intersperse your archers among your warbands, you have a good chance of you guys getting in good position. Besides, you have a 12in gap between you and the nearest enemy, and that doesn't take into account any terrain that you might have setup. |
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| Author: | cereal_theif [ Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 250pt Angmar Staff challenge |
but 12 inches is just 2 turns. 6 trackers shooting a D6 man for 2 turns is 1 wound on average. Even if it is 3 turns that is only 1.5 wounds. Where as 5 or 6 orc or a banner gives you more chance of winning fights ... hence not dying, and possibly killing your opponent,. |
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| Author: | Draugluin [ Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 250pt Angmar Staff challenge |
Well, why would you only have 6 archers? If your entire warband is trackers, that's 6 hits, and 1 wound a turn, so 3 wounds in the 3 turns it takes for them to get to you. Better than 1 banner and 6 orcs for the same number. |
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| Author: | cereal_theif [ Mon Feb 20, 2012 5:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 250pt Angmar Staff challenge |
Because he is playing 250pts perhaps?? My point is not on the grand but on the skirmish. In a 500pt game yes 12 trackers for sure. |
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| Author: | Draugluin [ Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 250pt Angmar Staff challenge |
Ah, true. |
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| Author: | Tzeentchling9 [ Wed Feb 22, 2012 2:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 250pt Angmar Staff challenge |
Thanks for the replies guys. Would 250pts be to few to stick the WK on a Fellbeast in? Something like this: Witch King of Angmar on a Fellbeast w/3 Might, 15 Will, 3 Fate 175pts 6x Orcs w/Shields 36pts 6x Orcs w/Spears 36pts Lol, when I write out, it looks like an even smaller list on paper than in theory. I was also thinking of taking a dual Troll goblin list: Gundabad Blackshield Captain 45pts Cave Troll 80pts Cave Troll 80pts 5xGoblins w/Shields 4xGoblins w/Spears Trolls are pretty tough and hitty, but maybe too easily ganged up on at this point level? |
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