GothmogtheWerewolf wrote:
All models can move independantly of their Warband, modles in a Warband do not have to stay grouped together.
ah...see this is what happens when you dont have a rulebook
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| Author: | sacreddutchman [ Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Moria/Angmar army ideas |
Just wandering if the folliwing would be feasable and at least have a shot a victory Moria Beast list Cave Drake Wild Wargs Spiders (Cave drake leader and 2 packs of 5 wargs with leadersplus a few spiders...dont know exact numbers but just wandering if this could work) Angmar Spirit List Shade army leader Barrow Wights as captains Amy of only Dead Marsh Spectres (i would convert them all from warriors of the dead..seems like a nice ghastly list) would either of these work...if so wich would you reccomend i go for? ps point limit would be 500 (lets start small) |
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| Author: | The Horde Lord [ Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moria/Angmar army ideas |
Neither list would work, but probably be fun to play with in friendly games. The Cave Drake is an independant hero, |
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| Author: | GothmogtheWerewolf [ Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moria/Angmar army ideas |
I agree. Also the 'theme' of an all spirit list is dreadful. |
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| Author: | sacreddutchman [ Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moria/Angmar army ideas |
aaawh...okay, hob about this? Ashrak 6 goblins + spear 6 goblins + bow 115 pts Goblin Shaman 6 goblins + spear 6 goblins + bow 105 Goblin Shaman 6 goblins + spear 6 goblins + bow 105 Warg Chieftain 7 wargs 131 2 Giant spiders + venomback upgrade 44 Total 500 (i could drop one warband of goblins for more venomback spiders...or no wargs and spiders but a single cave drake) |
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| Author: | The Horde Lord [ Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moria/Angmar army ideas |
What's up with all the shamans, you only need one. |
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| Author: | sacreddutchman [ Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moria/Angmar army ideas |
Ashrak 6 goblins + spear 6 goblins + bow 115 pts Goblin Shaman 6 goblins + spear 6 goblins + bow 105 Goblin Captain with bow & shield 6 goblins + spear 6 goblins + bow 105 Warg Chieftain 7 wargs 131 2 Giant spiders + venomback upgrade 44 Total 500 (i could drop one warband of goblins for more venomback spiders...or no wargs and spiders but a single cave drake...wich would be more effective?) |
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| Author: | imrail [ Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moria/Angmar army ideas |
I'd use multiple shamans, so you can use them in multiple contingents and flank your enemies. The Cave drake should be for larger point battles. But you will need some punch, a troll or two should do the trick. Keep in mind that the wargs (in the old rules) didn't get to throw the enemy to the ground when charging. |
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| Author: | The Horde Lord [ Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moria/Angmar army ideas |
Wargs still don't count as cavalry, and your army lacks might, which is better obtained from captains or Kings rather than shamans. Remember that if a another hero is within 6" of a shaman he pass his courage test automaticly and can use stand fast. |
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| Author: | sacreddutchman [ Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moria/Angmar army ideas |
Woud this be better? Ashrak 6 goblins + spear 6 goblins + bow 115 pts Goblin Shaman 6 goblins + spear 6 goblins + bow 105 Gobin captain + bow + shield 1 Gobin + bow + shield 2 Cave Trolls 115 Warg Chieftain 5 wargs 115 2 Giant Spiders 44 Total 500 |
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| Author: | Lord Hurin [ Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moria/Angmar army ideas |
Why are you giving your Goblin Captain a bow and shield? One or the other would be better. Honestly, sticking with what you want to do I'd go with something more like this: Durburz 6 Goblins with shields 6 Goblins with spears 120pts Goblin Shaman 6 Goblins with shields 6 Goblins with spears 105pts Goblin Captain with bow 12 Goblins with Orc bows 100pts Warg Chieftain 5 Wild Wargs 2 Giant Spiders 4 Goblins with shields |
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| Author: | sacreddutchman [ Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moria/Angmar army ideas |
that would mean losing the hard hitters (trolls) besides the 1 pt for a shield makes little difference in the total picture 1000pt list (could get this together without having to buy mutch more models0 Ashrak 6 Gobins with bow 6 Goblins with spear 115pts Goblin Shaman 6 Goblins with bow 6 Goblins with spear 105pts Warg Chieftain 5wargs 115pts Warg Chieftain 5wargs 115pts Goblin Captain with bow and shield 6 Goblins with shield 6 Goblins with bow 115pts Buhrdur 2 Cave trolls 270pts 2 Giant spiders + venomback 44 2 Giant spiders + venomback 44 Gundabad Blackshield Shaman 4 Gundabad Blackshields 86 pts total 999 |
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| Author: | GothmogtheWerewolf [ Sun Mar 25, 2012 3:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moria/Angmar army ideas |
Firstly, you need shields, either Goblin Warriors, Prowlers or Blackshields. Secondly you cannot give a Captain a shield and an Orc bow, even if you could it would be a waste, a shield costs 5pts for a Hero not 1pt, you can literally get another Goblin Warrior for that cost. Thirdly, you should either use Durburz, Groblog or both. |
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| Author: | sacreddutchman [ Sun Mar 25, 2012 5:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moria/Angmar army ideas |
Another try then (miscalcuated the trolls earlier on) Grôblog 6 goblins + shield 6 goblins + bow 115pts Goblin Captain + shield 6 goblins + shield 6 goblins + bow 100pts Goblin Shaman 2 goblin with shield 2 Cave Trolls 215pts 1 Warg Marauder (can these move indipentanly or do they need a captain?) 1 warg Marauder 70pts Total 500 |
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| Author: | GothmogtheWerewolf [ Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moria/Angmar army ideas |
Warg Marauders can move independantlym, but in order to ield any you need a hero. All Warrior s need a hero. Since you only have 4 Warriors in Warband 3, put the Marauders in that Warband, then no lead to alter your list. |
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| Author: | sacreddutchman [ Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moria/Angmar army ideas |
so they'd basicly be part of warband 3 but able to move independantly of said warband? |
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| Author: | GothmogtheWerewolf [ Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moria/Angmar army ideas |
All models can move independantly of their Warband, modles in a Warband do not have to stay grouped together. |
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| Author: | sacreddutchman [ Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moria/Angmar army ideas |
with some converting of wild wargs and goblins into warg marauders i will have enough miniatures for a 1000pt list 500pt list ------------------- Grôblog 6 goblins + shield 6 goblins + bow 115pts Goblin Captain + shield 6 goblins + shield 6 goblins + bow 100pts Goblin Shaman 2 goblin with shield 2 Cave Trolls 215pts 2 Warg Marauders 70pts Total: 500pts --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 500pts list to uprgrade to 1000pts ----------------------------------- Durbûrz 6 goblins with shield 6 goblins with bow 120 Asrák 6 goblins with shield 6 goblins with bow 115 Warg Chieftain 5 Wild Wargs 115 Warg Chieftain 5 Wild Wargs 1 Warg Marauder 150 Total: 500pts grand Total: 1000pts exactly |
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| Author: | sacreddutchman [ Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moria/Angmar army ideas |
GothmogtheWerewolf wrote: All models can move independantly of their Warband, modles in a Warband do not have to stay grouped together. ah...see this is what happens when you dont have a rulebook
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| Author: | GothmogtheWerewolf [ Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moria/Angmar army ideas |
You cannot write the cost of one Warg Marauder. It il ilegal to post the pts of an individual model. Also could you write the model count, break point, total might points and number of bows please. As long as you put the marauders in a Warband, it looks you could have a good list. |
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| Author: | sacreddutchman [ Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Moria/Angmar army ideas |
GothmogtheWerewolf wrote: You cannot write the cost of one Warg Marauder. It il ilegal to post the pts of an individual model. Also could you write the model count, break point, total might points and number of bows please. As long as you put the marauders in a Warband, it looks you could have a good list. oooops here goes, this should be it 500pt list ------------------- Grôblog 6 goblins with shield 4 goblins with bow 2 goblins with spear 115pts Goblin Captain with shield 6 goblins with shield 4 goblins with bow 2 goblins with spear 100pts Goblin Shaman 2 goblin with shield 2 Cave Trolls 2 Warg Marauders 285pts total: 500pts 6 might 12 bows 45 figures --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 500pts list to uprgrade to 1000pts ----------------------------------- Durbûrz 6 goblins with shield 4 goblins with bow 2 goblins with spear 120 Asrák 6 goblins with shield 4 goblins with bow 2 goblins with spear 115 Warg Chieftain 5 Wild Wargs 115 Warg Chieftain 5 Wild Wargs 1 Warg Marauder 150 Total: 500pts 6might 10 bows 37 figures ---------------------------------------------------- grand Total: 1000pts exactly 12 might 22 bows 82 figures |
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