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 Post subject: Mordor-Harad 2000pts
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:09 pm 
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Made a Pelennor fields-themed army.
This is actually 2052 but I'll drop some units. Advice welcomed

MORDOR

WB1 12/12
Witch-King of Angmar on Fell Beast w/Crown of Morgul 3M 20W 3F
12 Morannon Orcs w/ shields

WB2 12/12
Gothmog on warg w/ shield
6 Warg Riders w/ shields
6 Orcs w/ spears

WB3 12/12
War Leader Shagrat
10 Morannon Orcs w/ shields
2 Trolls

WB4 12/12
Gorbag w/ shield
Mordor Siege Bow

WB5 12/12
Orc Taskmaster
12 Orcs w/ spears

HARAD

WB6 12/12
Betrayer w/ armoured horse
12 Haradrim warriors w/ Bow

WB7 12/12
Suladân w/ Horse
12 Haradrim Raiders w/ War spears

WB8 12/12
The Golden King
12 Abrakhân Merchant Guards

WB9 11/12
Haradrim Taskmaster
10 Haradrim Warriors w/ Bows and Spears
1 Haradrim Warrior w/ War horn

2052 pts (what should I drop?)
Units: 106, Break point: 53, 25%: 26
23 Might
22 Poisoned Shots :twisted: per turn, 1 Siege bow shot

Some thoughts/combinations/whatsoever:
-Betrayer stays with the Haradrim archers as he gives them poison boost
-Suladan and Shagrat hack through enemy lines with Taskmaster and Troll support :twisted:
-Gothmog pairs up with WK, Warg Riders and Haradrim raiders to make a decent(?) cavalry group
-Morannons are the front-line (because D6) supported by Orc and Haradrim spears

I have to buy most of these guys but I have already:
WK
12 Morannons
Siege bow
Gorbag and Shagrat are coming from Britain

Any thoughts?
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 Post subject: Re: Mordor-Harad 2000pts
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:50 pm 
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Pelennor without a Mumak? What's going on there?

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 Post subject: Re: Mordor-Harad 2000pts
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:55 pm 
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Umm I dunno. Maybe I don't like it. Too risky. `.`
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 Post subject: Re: Mordor-Harad 2000pts
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:02 pm 
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Fair enough, it is a bit of an investment for an army, and doesn't always pay off.

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 Post subject: Re: Mordor-Harad 2000pts
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:18 pm 
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Yep. Does anyone else have tips/advice/help/anything?
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 Post subject: Re: Mordor-Harad 2000pts
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:16 pm 
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Personally I wouldn't take the Siege Bow, not really all that useful IMO. I think not taking a Mumak at 2000 points is a mistake, they're very very good. Just was with all units you have to know how to use them.

I'd dump Shagrat and the Siege Bow (as I said before) and include 2 Shamen. The Orcs will definitely benefit from the courage boost, and two bubbles of 5+ channeled Fury will help that part of the army quite a lot, especially as your army is low FV (Mostly Fight 3).

I wouldn't recommend the Crown and Fell Beast for the Witch-king its a waste of points IMO that are better spent elsewhere.

You have a good amount of units. I could give more precise advice if I knew what army you were facing.

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 Post subject: Re: Mordor-Harad 2000pts
PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:41 pm 
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Thanks for reply.
I will facing grims, new Mirkwood rangers, Gondor, Fellowship and Thorin's co.And Avenger Bolt Thrower (I counter that with my Siege bow). So, my opponent has bit of everything.

Ok, here is the new list

MORDOR

WB1 12/12
Witch-King of Angmar on Armoured horse w/ 3M 20W 3F
10 Morannon Orcs w/ 5 shields, 5 spears
2 Trolls

WB2 12/12
Gorbag w/ shield
6 Orcs w/ spears

WB3 12/12
Mordor Orc Shaman
6 Morannon Orcs w/ shields
6 Orcs w/ spears

WB4 12/12
Mordor Orc Shaman

6 Morannon Orcs w/ shields
6 Orcs w/ spears

WB5 12/12
Orc Taskmaster
6 Morannon Orcs w/ shields
6 Orcs w/ spears

HARAD

WB6 12/12
Betrayer w/ armoured horse
12 Haradrim Raiders w/ War spears

WB7 12/12
Suladân w/ Horse
12 Abrakhân Merchant Guards

WB8 12/12
Mumak w/ Gnarled Hide, Tusk Weapons
12 Haradrim Warriors w/ bows

WB9 11/12
Haradrim Taskmaster
10 Haradrim Warriors w/ Bows
1 Haradrim Warrior w/ War horn

Now thats better, right? 2001 pts
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 Post subject: Re: Mordor-Harad 2000pts
PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:11 pm 
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I do believe that's better. Morannon Orcs are beast with fury and that Mumak, fell beast and trolls should ravage the enemy troops. Make sure you have plenty of terrain on the field. And hide from that bow until you can hit it fast. Destroying that bow is important but don't let it be too key for you to the point of distraction.

My money is on your force if you use your monsters with precision and your Orcs as the meat-shields they are

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