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Author:  Rangefinder [ Thu Mar 27, 2014 4:21 pm ]
Post subject:  300 points Tournament 29-March..., need help selecting force

Appreciate any comments or recommendations...
My head is kind of reeling from just the idea of finally running a game.
It's been forever. My thoughts truly are all over the place on this.
I ordered them, List 1 being most favored... to List 4.

Three games total, scored as follows...
3 points for a win, 2 for a draw, and 1 for a loss.
2 points awarded for the army being painted.
Scenarios: To the Death, Hold Ground, and Lords of Battle.

List 1: Painted
Damrod
Ithilien Guard (spear & shield) x 4
Ranger of Ithilien x8
Forlong
Axemen of Lossarnach x 12

List 2: Not painted
Harad Chief w/bow
Warriors of Karna (bow) x 9
Watchers of Karna (bow) x 3
Harad Chief
Abrakhan Merchant Guard x 5
Watchers of Karna x 6

List 3: Painted
Mahud King (war spear, shield, war camel)
Mahud Warriors (spear) x 4
Mahud Raiders (war spear) x 2
Half Troll (2 Handed) x 4
Half Troll x 2

List 4: Painted
King of the Dead
Warriors of the Dead (spear) x 4
Warriors of the Dead x 8

Author:  Deathclip [ Thu Mar 27, 2014 5:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 300 points Tournament 29-March..., need help selecting f

Few things ti point out.
List one is illegal because minas tirith and fiefdoms are different armies, so you are allowed up to 4 bows per faction. 8 rangers exceed the 1/3 limit from the minas tirith faction.
In list 4 the warriors of the dead cannot carry spears nor use special strikes. The weapons are cosmetic apart from the shield.

Overall, id say that list 4 is not veey competitive. List 3 and 4 I like a lot but since list two is unpainted id go for list 3, mainly for the awesome fluff.

I do think though that list 1 and 2 are the most competitive and have a lot of potential if built right

Author:  Rangefinder [ Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 300 points Tournament 29-March..., need help selecting f

I totally missed that 1/3 and factions rule. I knew it, and then forgot it.
Easily fixed, I could just add 4 Ithilien Guard, and subtract 4 Ithilien Rangers.
It all would still be painted. Thank you for that catch!

I thought the Warriors of the Dead could have spears and shields now.
The new sourcebooks show that it costs a point each to equip.
I was not in love with this list anyways. Not heart broken at all.

I am still pretty tied to the Scorpion Sting, List:2.
Thought bows might be good in a small match.
Every casualty is really going to count on Saturday!
I won't get 2 points for this, but my Watchers of Karna are painted.

The Mahud List: 3 is really calling me too.
It's got variety for sure, it's like Ragu', "It's in THERE!!!".
Just worried about only having one warband.

Author:  Rangefinder [ Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 300 points Tournament 29-March..., need help selecting f

And I do agree, List: 2 needs to be reorganized.
I kept it all simple like so it would be easy to read.

Author:  JamesR [ Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:32 pm ]
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I'd vote list 2 because you have good killing power and plenty of bows. List 3 is strong but a few lucky shots will end the threat. Personally I hate the AOTD so they don't get my vote. And list 1 lacks everything really lol, Not much killing power, Not a lot of great defense, relatively unimpressive heroes. Just paint up list 2! Lol

Author:  Rangefinder [ Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 300 points Tournament 29-March..., need help selecting f

To be honest I thought about painting List: 2 up.
My pace to paint is glacial, ...at best.
14 models would be tough to do in a month.

I care way too much about painting models once I start.
On my very first try painting, I went in fast and loose.
Was satisfied with the result.
But decided if any effort would be made, it would be a good effort!

Your so mean to List: 1!!! hahaha... I love the way they look!
I accept, and appreciate your honesty though.
It carries weight with my inexperience on the battlefield.

Thank you!

Author:  Deathclip [ Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 300 points Tournament 29-March..., need help selecting f

You can just quickly basecoat the models you want to. This has got to count as painted. Thats how far several people in my area go when it comes to painting.

Author:  Rangefinder [ Thu Mar 27, 2014 9:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 300 points Tournament 29-March..., need help selecting f

I would say 3 colors minimum and I could call something "painted".

Basing a miniature is not something I spend a lot of time on.
That is where I will skimp out, if anyplace.

But yeah, meets the letter, not the spirit! hahahahaha :-D

Author:  LordoftheBrownRing [ Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 300 points Tournament 29-March..., need help selecting f

Deathclip wrote:
You can just quickly basecoat the models you want to. This has got to count as painted. Thats how far several people in my area go when it comes to painting.



Im work with the shop manager the most there and Id bet money on painted means FULLY painted.


As for your force, since Ill be playing against you, Ill keep my opinions to myself mostly....but I will say one thing.... dont think fiefdoms is particularly that competitive. I also thought Harad too so Im glad I changed my mind haha

Author:  Valadorn [ Fri Mar 28, 2014 6:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 300 points Tournament 29-March..., need help selecting f

Paint it good or dont paint it at all! Dont make mad things just for a tournament XD

Author:  Rangefinder [ Fri Mar 28, 2014 1:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 300 points Tournament 29-March..., need help selecting f

Mashed the Army Builder some more. 300 points right on.
Wanted to have elements of List: 2 & List: 3.
Half Troll and Raider for random threats.
The Mahud with Blowpipes have some firepower at close range, and D5.
Watchers of Karna for obvious reasons.

Not too worried about letting the "cat out of the bag" here.
There are going to be people there who are not here on OR.
And... after all, you still have to play the game!!!

Warband 1 8/12
Haradrim Chieftain
2 Watcher of Kârna with Bow;
4 Watcher of Kârna
2 Abrakhân Merchant Guard

Warband 2 10/12
Mâhud King with Shield;
4 Mahûd Warrior with Blowpipe;
4 Mahûd Warrior with Spear
1 Mahûd Raider with War spear;
1 Half Troll of Far Harad

Author:  Rangefinder [ Fri Mar 28, 2014 4:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 300 points Tournament 29-March..., need help selecting f

Just going to bump this one time.

The tourney is tomorrow!

Author:  LordoftheBrownRing [ Sat Mar 29, 2014 5:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 300 points Tournament 29-March..., need help selecting f

Rangefinder wrote:
Mashed the Army Builder some more. 300 points right on.
Wanted to have elements of List: 2 & List: 3.
Half Troll and Raider for random threats.
The Mahud with Blowpipes have some firepower at close range, and D5.
Watchers of Karna for obvious reasons.

Not too worried about letting the "cat out of the bag" here.
There are going to be people there who are not here on OR.
And... after all, you still have to play the game!!!

Warband 1 8/12
Haradrim Chieftain
2 Watcher of Kârna with Bow;
4 Watcher of Kârna
2 Abrakhân Merchant Guard

Warband 2 10/12
Mâhud King with Shield;
4 Mahûd Warrior with Blowpipe;
4 Mahûd Warrior with Spear
1 Mahûd Raider with War spear;
1 Half Troll of Far Harad



Thats going to be an awesome list to play with and against for the unique aspect.

Im taking all Hunter orcs so well be cutting each other up quick haha. Damn war camels though

Author:  thranduilelrey [ Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:31 am ]
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For 300 points i'like this list, but a idon't know if yo have it...
Glorfindel with armour
7 elfs with spear and shield
4 elfs with elf bow and spear
1 elf with banner
You can kill many enemys with the bow and if they arrive with you you have alot of spears a banner and a glorfindel :-D they are dead

Author:  LordoftheBrownRing [ Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 300 points Tournament 29-March..., need help selecting f

Way too few models. We had a list similar today and was vastly outnumbered. I had 26 models myself and faces it and I just threw my troops to its lines. They were outnumbered two to one. Not much to do there.

Author:  Rangefinder [ Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 300 points Tournament 29-March..., need help selecting f

Had a great time at the tourney on Saturday.
Thank you all for coming out and making it a success!
Here is the list I ran with. I won both my matches.

Warband 1
Haradrim Chieftain
3 Watcher of Kârna with Bow;
6 Watcher of Kârna

Warband 2
Mâhud King with Shield;
4 Mahûd Warrior with Spear
2 Half Troll of Far Harad
1 Mahûd Raider with War spear

I thought I would be outnumbered for sure.
The first game was the first win I had since forever ago.
The second game was in doubt for a long while.

No battle report here really. But this is what I remember I was against.
The first, Gondor force with Farimir, Cirion, and a bunch of WOMT.
The next, Isengard Force with Vrasku and Mauhur, Scouts, and Berserkers.

Lordofthebrownring and I have to throw down a match still!!!

Author:  LordoftheBrownRing [ Fri Apr 04, 2014 5:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 300 points Tournament 29-March..., need help selecting f

Haha indeed we do. My hunters are still hungry. I just finished up painting my event for a tournament tomorrow.....yup I suck.....and after that I'll get in touch.

I ended up drawing 1 and winning two. I'll post a picture less bat rep soon.

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