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| Author: | burning gaze [ Fri Jan 23, 2015 6:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Isengard 1000 points for tournament |
Hello! I'm going to a tournament in a few weeks, and I'll be taking my Isengard list. Inspired by a list by DrGrant I have added the help from the Witch King as well. The tournament in 1000 points, and every player has to have 3 full warbands, and no hero over 225 points. Any tips or suggestions? Should I add a troll? Isengard Warband 1 0/12 Saruman with Horse; Warband 2 12/12 Lurtz 5 Uruk-hai Warrior with Shield; 5 Uruk-hai Warrior with Pike; 2 Uruk-hai Berserker Warband 3 5/12 Sharku 2 Warg Rider with Shield; 2 Warg Rider with Shield; Throwing spears; 1 Warg Rider with Orc bow; Warband 4 12/12 Vraskû 12 Uruk-hai Warrior with Crossbow; Warband 5 12/12 Uruk-hai Captain with Shield; Heavy armour; 5 Uruk-hai Warrior with Shield; 3 Uruk-hai Warrior with Pike; 4 Uruk-hai Berserker Warband 6 0/12 The Witch-king of Angmar with Horse; 2 Extra Might; 5 Extra Will; 2 Extra Fate; Total points: 999 Total units: 47 Break point: 24 25 %: 12 |
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| Author: | Sikano [ Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Isengard 1000 points for tournament |
Thats a pretty big battle haha. I feel like you should have a banner in there somewhere with this many points. Especially because there are so many units on the field the banner becomes more effective. I PERSONALLY would take a troll but I could see how he would quickly become a pin-cushion. just my two cents |
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| Author: | Nikrandonia [ Sun Jan 25, 2015 12:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Isengard 1000 points for tournament |
At 1000pts Isengard I am a little surprised to see no Grima... |
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| Author: | burning gaze [ Sun Jan 25, 2015 3:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Isengard 1000 points for tournament |
Is Grima really essential to a list? I've not been that impressed by him. If I'm going to add a troll, should I reduce numbers or remove the Witch King? |
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| Author: | Guppy [ Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Isengard 1000 points for tournament |
I've played a number of games with Grima Lurking in my back field and he is VERY annoying! I generally play Gondor so I have a number of Low point characters such as Damrod or Beregod and they can't call any heroics while within 6 Inches and It can hurt. Alternatively I can Charge models into him to hold him up but then Im taking guys away from fighting the Urak-hai and I generally need all the swords I can get! Hes only 25 points so in my opinion in a 1000 point game to spend 25 on him is a Must! especially when he can really gimp some characters you may see like Boromir of the white tower or Aragorn, and a whole host of others. ( who knows what at 1000!) also if you maneuver him right I belive he can trap people in. I would ALWAYS take him! But just my thoughts, Good luck at the tourny! |
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| Author: | Elf of the North [ Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Isengard 1000 points for tournament |
I agree on taking Grima, as he is very good for his points. I would also remove Sharku and give Saruman a warband to go with him. Rather than a troll I would mount the Witch King on a fell beast. Something like: Warand 1 12/12 Saruman on horse 7*Uruk-hai w. pike 4*Uruk-hai w. shield 1*Uruk-hai w. pike and banner Warband 2 Grima Warband 3 12/12 Vrasku 12* Uruk-hai w. crossbow Warband 4 12/12 Uruk-hai Captain 5*Uruk-hai berserker 7*Uruk-hai w. pike Allied from Mordor Witch King of Angmar on fell beast w. morgul blade, 3 extra might, 8 extra will and 3 extra fate 4*warg rider w. shield 45 units, break point=23, 11 might |
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| Author: | Sikano [ Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Isengard 1000 points for tournament |
Elf of the North wrote: I agree on taking Grima, as he is very good for his points. I would also remove Sharku and give Saruman a warband to go with him. Rather than a troll I would mount the Witch King on a fell beast. Something like: Warand 1 12/12 Saruman on horse 7*Uruk-hai w. pike 4*Uruk-hai w. shield 1*Uruk-hai w. pike and banner Warband 2 Grima Warband 3 12/12 Vrasku 12* Uruk-hai w. crossbow Warband 4 12/12 Uruk-hai Captain 5*Uruk-hai berserker 7*Uruk-hai w. pike Allied from Mordor Witch King of Angmar on fell beast w. morgul blade, 3 extra might, 8 extra will and 3 extra fate 4*warg rider w. shield 45 units, break point=23, 11 might Only thing I think I would change is maybe using feral instead of the beserkers. Thats just me though. I like the Feral more. |
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| Author: | burning gaze [ Tue Jan 27, 2015 8:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Isengard 1000 points for tournament |
Cool, thanks for the tips. I've added Grima and updated the list below. Unfortunately I don't have a Fell Beast, so I added a troll instead. Since I need 3 full warbands, is it worth it to decrease the Witch Kings M/W/F to add a Banner? Isengard Saruman, horse 6 Uruk-hai, shields 5 Uruk-hai, pike 1 Berserker Vrasku 12 Uruk-hai, crossbows Uruk Captain, shield 7 Uruk-hai, pike 5 Berserkers Grima Wormtongue Mordor Allies: Witck King of Angmar, horse, 2 extra might, 7 extra will, 2 extra fate 4 Warg Riders, shields 1 Mordor Troll 997 points, 46 models |
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| Author: | Elf of the North [ Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Isengard 1000 points for tournament |
A banner is always a nice addition to an army. I would swap out one berserker for an uruk-hai w. shield, remove one warg rider w. shield and take away one point of will from the Witch king. This should give you enough points to equip one of your troops with a banner. Hope this helps! 
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