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Author:  Lord Hurin [ Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:44 pm ]
Post subject:  SBG: Dwarf Shieldbearers

Hey all, I was just wondering if Dwarf Shieldbearers can lead Warbands in the new rules. I know some of the other "lesser" Heroes like Easterling Dragon Knights and Rangers of the North can't.

I have 225 Dwarves, but only 9 Heroes currently, so I'm looking for more...

Author:  Syrath101 [ Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: SBG: Dwarf Shieldbearers

Are they effected by the independent character rule? If not, then yes they can but if they are, they can't and must be on their own.

Author:  thelordcal [ Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SBG: Dwarf Shieldbearers

The answer is yes they can lead warbands: They are not Independent characters.

In fact none of the Dwarf characters are ICs.

Hope it helps!

Author:  ScarpeIron [ Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SBG: Dwarf Shieldbearers

and if you're still short :-D on hero's you can always convert a dwarven warrior to become a Captain. Just make him stand out and all will be good.

- :puppy:

Author:  Lord Hurin [ Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: SBG: Dwarf Shieldbearers

Ok, that's a relief! I guess I'll have to bite the bullet and buy a Dwarf Commanders set, but at least it's 4 minis I don't have (I've got 3 of the other Captain without shield and 2 of the other banner bearer.) The price is high, but it's not like it's going down nor can I get those minis (easily anyway) in metal anymore.

Thanks all for your help. My main concern was switching it up and not just having a dozen Dwarf Captains on the field.

Author:  Battalia [ Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: SBG: Dwarf Shieldbearers

Dwarves are an odd lot. Suspiciously cheap troops with extreamly expensive hero's. Does it even out? Hard to say. But named leaders pack a much bigger punch than generics, so if your going to drop a load of points on a capitain, might as well make them a named hero who can take on hoards of anything and win on a 6.

Author:  Draugluin [ Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: SBG: Dwarf Shieldbearers

None of the dwarven heroes are overpriced. The most expenisve ones more than make up their price. Durin has a war horn, the KC has TWO banners and Dain has a 12in standfast with 7 courage. Next to elves dwarves have the most underpriced units in the game.

Author:  Lord Hurin [ Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: SBG: Dwarf Shieldbearers

Battalia wrote:
Dwarves are an odd lot. Suspiciously cheap troops with extreamly expensive hero's. Does it even out? Hard to say. But named leaders pack a much bigger punch than generics, so if your going to drop a load of points on a capitain, might as well make them a named hero who can take on hoards of anything and win on a 6.


I already have all 3 named 3rd Age Heroes (Dain, Balin and Gimli) as well as 2 Dwarf Kings and 4 Captains (one of which I'm converting into a Shieldbearer using a Warhammer Chaos Marauder shield.) I've never even seen Floi or the King's Champion in a store, and I haven't seen their SBG stats either. Durin and Mardin don't really appeal to me though.

Author:  Draugluin [ Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: SBG: Dwarf Shieldbearers

Durin and Mardin are both Third Age dwarves, assuming of course that Durin represents Durin IV-Durin VII

Author:  Lord Hurin [ Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: SBG: Dwarf Shieldbearers

Draugluin wrote:
Durin and Mardin are both Third Age dwarves, assuming of course that Durin represents Durin IV-Durin VII


Right, I meant War of the Ring era Heroes. Durin may take offense to standing side-by-side with the upstart King Dain, lol.

I also had forgotten about Murin and Drar, who I suppose I should keep an eye out for. Damn shame that they can only collectively lead 11 troops, though... :(

Author:  cereal_theif [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: SBG: Dwarf Shieldbearers

My dwarf army at 800pts is led by gimli, dain, balin and a captain with throwing weapons. No need for super heroes until 1000pts as balin n gimmers are F6, Dain F5.
Then mass your troops in.

Author:  Lord Hurin [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 8:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: SBG: Dwarf Shieldbearers

cereal_theif wrote:
My dwarf army at 800pts is led by gimli, dain, balin and a captain with throwing weapons. No need for super heroes until 1000pts as balin n gimmers are F6, Dain F5.
Then mass your troops in.


Aye, but I've got some 225 Dwarves as it is, plus I need some more Khazad and Iron Guard... I think I worked it out that I'll have 240 all told, so I'll need 20 Heroes.

Author:  cereal_theif [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: SBG: Dwarf Shieldbearers

lol sounds like you need to start collecting a new army... stop being so height-ist

Author:  Lord Hurin [ Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: SBG: Dwarf Shieldbearers

cereal_theif wrote:
lol sounds like you need to start collecting a new army... stop being so height-ist


:lol: Lol, having been read The Hobbit at the age of around 5 the Dwarves were always my first love. That story really sparked my passion for all things Tolkien, and the stubborn and strong Dwarves really resonated with me.

And I do have other armies. About 160 Goblins, 90 or 100 Uruk-hai and many more. It's just that I can't resist when I see Dwarves at a bargain price, so I've picked up big lots of plastics for cheap. The sad truth is that I'll certainly be buying at least a couple boxes of Dain's Iron Hills Dwarves when GW releases them for The Hobbit range. :roll:

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