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| Author: | MeatBoy1994 [ Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Have I been playing wrong? |
Correct me if I'm wrong: A mounted warrior on a charge gets knockdown (I know thats right), BUT in the fight phase, before wounding, does he get a +1 on attacks or +1 on fight value? I played a friend who said they get an extra fight value, and as I dont have the rulebook no more... So, he played as a captain on horse gets F5 and 4 attacks. Or does he have F4 and6 attacks??  Sorry if this breaks any rules! 
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| Author: | Elessar Telcontar [ Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Have I been playing wrong? |
Charging cavalry models don't get extra Fight. They benefit from knock-down and an Extra Attack. Plus, knocked down models count as trapped and take two strikes per Attack. I just saw a lot of people openly write about Imrahil's and Amdur's stats, so I don't think this will make GW upset.  Hope I was to any help |
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| Author: | MeatBoy1994 [ Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Have I been playing wrong? |
Elessar Telcontar wrote: Charging cavalry models don't get extra Fight. They benefit from knock-down and an Extra Attack. Plus, knocked down models count as trapped and take two strikes per Attack. I just saw a lot of people openly write about Imrahil's and Amdur's stats, so I don't think this will make GW upset. Hope I was to any help Thanks. So, a powerhouse hero like Boromir gets 8 attacks if he wins the fight on a charge? Thats more than most monsters!! |
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| Author: | theavenger001 [ Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Have I been playing wrong? |
MeatBoy1994 wrote: Elessar Telcontar wrote: Charging cavalry models don't get extra Fight. They benefit from knock-down and an Extra Attack. Plus, knocked down models count as trapped and take two strikes per Attack. I just saw a lot of people openly write about Imrahil's and Amdur's stats, so I don't think this will make GW upset. Hope I was to any help Thanks. So, a powerhouse hero like Boromir gets 8 attacks if he wins the fight on a charge? Thats more than most monsters!! No. He gets 4 attacks. These get doubled, as his oponent is knocked to the ground and thus trapped. He can kill up to 4 models, but he gets to strike twice at each model, for a total of 8 strikes. |
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| Author: | MeatBoy1994 [ Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Have I been playing wrong? |
theavenger001 wrote: MeatBoy1994 wrote: Elessar Telcontar wrote: Charging cavalry models don't get extra Fight. They benefit from knock-down and an Extra Attack. Plus, knocked down models count as trapped and take two strikes per Attack. I just saw a lot of people openly write about Imrahil's and Amdur's stats, so I don't think this will make GW upset. Hope I was to any help Thanks. So, a powerhouse hero like Boromir gets 8 attacks if he wins the fight on a charge? Thats more than most monsters!! No. He gets 4 attacks. These get doubled, as his oponent is knocked to the ground and thus trapped. He can kill up to 4 models, but he gets to strike twice at each model, for a total of 8 strikes. But he gets 8 strikes if there is only one enemy in the fight? |
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| Author: | General Elessar [ Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Have I been playing wrong? |
MeatBoy1994 wrote: But he gets 8 strikes if there is only one enemy in the fight? Yes. He can apply all of his four attacks to one model, and each attack is doubled. |
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| Author: | Battalia [ Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Have I been playing wrong? |
The trickey part is the wounds. Let's say a normal rider of rohan (1 attack) charges 2 uruk-hai and wins the combat with his 2 attack. (bonus from charging). Then you roll 4 dice, 2 6's and a 1 and a 4. 2 kills right? Wrong. The rohan player just cheated. You MUST roll the dice seperatly. 1 attack has 2 chances to wound. So you roll 2 dice, get 2 6's and kill the first uruk. Then roll 2 more dice for your second attack and roll a 1 and a 4. No kill. |
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| Author: | Phoenix1986 [ Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Have I been playing wrong? |
because being knocked down gets you double strikes, and you cant apply half a strike |
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| Author: | GothmogtheWerewolf [ Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Have I been playing wrong? |
8 strikes but only 4 attacks Mr Meatboy |
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| Author: | MeatBoy1994 [ Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Have I been playing wrong? |
GothmogtheWerewolf wrote: 8 strikes but only 4 attacks Mr Meatboy What about vs other cavalry and bigger models? Does he still get an extra attack, but no knockdown? |
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| Author: | Phoenix1986 [ Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Have I been playing wrong? |
neither, so you can counter it by charging him with a cavalry/troll/monster |
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| Author: | GothmogtheWerewolf [ Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Have I been playing wrong? |
Cavalry negates both extra attack and knock to the ground. Against a monster you do still get extra attack but not knoock to the ground, unless the cavalry is a monstrous mount. |
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| Author: | ScarpeIron [ Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Have I been playing wrong? |
and don't forget if the cavalry has a lance/warspear they get the +1 to wounding. |
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| Author: | Battalia [ Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Have I been playing wrong? |
ScarpeIron wrote: and don't forget if the cavalry has a lance/warspear they get the +1 to wounding. Only if the cav has charged. No lance bonus if they were charged first |
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| Author: | rififivos [ Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Have I been playing wrong? |
Phoenix1986 wrote: neither, so you can counter it by charging him with a cavalry/troll/monster This is partialy false since if you countercharge with a troll/monster the cavalryman doesn't lose his extra attack and even the knocked-down bonus is retained against the initial target. |
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