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 Post subject: Can Azog use the White wargs might?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 9:52 am 
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Can Azog use the White wargs might etc whilst he is mounted on it?

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 Post subject: Re: Can Azog use the White wargs might?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:43 am 
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It's definitely a grey area and is confusing because it's the only model in the game where the rider and mount both have M/W/F. There's no official answer from GW yet but here's how we ruled it for the GBHL Community FAQ. This isn't by any means official but it's what made the most sense to us and is the way Azog is used in UK tournaments. I hope it's useful.

Azog on the White Warg

When Azog is riding the White Warg we enter a unique situation in SBG in that both the rider and the mount have Might, Will and Fate, this creates a surprising number of confusing issues which are all dealt with below:

The White Warg's Packmaster rule means his Heroic Moves/Marches and Combats only affect him and other Wargs. Can the White Warg use a point of Might to call a Heroic Move/March/Combat whilst Azog is riding him without forcing Azog to dismount? Yes

The White Warg's Packmaster rule means that his Heroic Move/Marches/Combats only affect him and other Wargs, If the White Warg uses a point of Might to call a Heroic Move/March/Combat whilst Azog is riding him, does With me/At the Double/the Heroic Combat affect models that aren't Wargs? Yes, as long as Azog is riding the White Warg, you may use the White Warg’s Might for Heroic Moves/Marches and Combats as if they were Azog’s. The Packmaster rule only comes into play if Azog dismounts from the White Warg at any point. Note that you still need to make a note of whether Azog or the White Warg used the Might point in case they are later separated!
If The White Warg uses a Might point to call a Heroic Strike does he have to add the D6 to his own fight value or can he use Azog's? He has to use his own Fight value

Can you use the White Warg and Azog's Might interchangeably and in combination to boost a jump/leap/climb/Duel/To Wound/Resist/Courage Test etc. roll? Yes. For all of these situations, treat Azog on the White Warg as a single model with 6 Might. Note that you still need to make a note of whether Azog or the White Warg used the Might point in case they are later separated!

If Azog on White Warg is targeted by an enemy spell can you use the White Warg's Will and/or combine the White Warg’s Will with Azog's and roll them together to resist it? Similarly, if Azog fails a courage roll, can he use the White Warg’s Will and/or combine his Will point with that of the White Warg’s to pass it? Yes, for all intents and purposes treat Azog on the White Warg as 1 model with 4 Will. Note that you still need to make a note of whether Azog or the White Warg used the Will point in case they are later separated

Can you use Azog's Fate point to prevent a wound on the White Warg and vice versa? No

If Azog fails a Fate roll when, can you use the White Warg's Might to boost it to a pass (and vice versa)? No

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Azog is a tricky one, but its a very good model to counter heroes.
I dont have him yet but been porxy the model and its lovely touse the white warg´s combination to leave azog´s might unused for tough fights :)
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