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Author:  boromir_of_ithilien [ Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:46 pm ]
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SouthernDunedain wrote:
boromir_of_ithilien wrote:
whafrog wrote:
The ones in the Ruins of Arnor book. Grey Company is the faction which is comprised of Aragorn, Halbarad, Arathorn, the Twins, Rangers of the North, Dunedain, and the Rangers of Arnor. The new books make the distinction a little blurrier, but yes, Rangers of Middle-Earth can be used anywhere you need normal Ranger warriors.

The Grey Company models I believe had identical stats to Rangers of the North and could be used in their place.


So if I could always choose to use some Rangers of Middle-Earth as the Grey Company in Games Workshop or at any tournaments and it would still be okay?


:roll: possibly. I'd say no because the RoN/ Grey Company models look different to the rangers of middle earth models - more armoured. If you was doing an entire army then i reckon you would have to buy the metal versions so they look different. Otherwise it could get confusing for your opponent.

Ranger of the North
Image

Rangers of Middle Earth
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Grey Company
Image


Oops, I think I wasn't too clear.

I didn't mean to use the Rangers of Middle-Earth models as the Grey Company models. I was just wondering if in a battle, I could tell my opponent that I'm going to use the special bow rule with my Rangers of Middle-Earth.
Author:  SouthernDunedain [ Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:52 pm ]
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You have to have 1 RoN per 4 rangers of middle earth. To get the special bow rule you would have to have a list like this

Arathorn
12 Rangers of Arnor

3 Rangers of the North
Author:  whafrog [ Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:00 pm ]
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SouthernDunedain wrote:
You have to have 1 RoN per 4 rangers of middle earth. To get the special bow rule you would have to have a list like this

Arathorn
12 Rangers of Arnor

3 Rangers of the North


Or, if you're using LoME:

3 Rangers of the North(*) or Dunedain
12 Rangers of Arnor(**)

* - represented by the metal Rangers of the North models or the metal Grey Company models
** - represented by the plastic Rangers of Middle-Earth.
Author:  boromir_of_ithilien [ Thu Aug 16, 2012 6:22 pm ]
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Thanks a lot guys. I've been wanting to purchase Rangers of Middle-Earth for a really long time now.
Did they produce a set of 24 Rangers before?
Author:  SidTheSloth [ Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:21 pm ]
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Quote:
Did they produce a set of 24 Rangers before?


yeah they did, back in the old days of coolness
Author:  GothmogtheWerewolf [ Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:33 pm ]
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boromir_of_ithilien wrote:
Thanks a lot guys. I've been wanting to purchase Rangers of Middle-Earth for a really long time now.
Did they produce a set of 24 Rangers before?

Some stores still have them.
Author:  Valamir [ Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:12 pm ]
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@Gothmog- wow, nice increase in posts since I was last on. You've been busy. :)

Yes, they have produced a box of 24 Rangers- when you combined that with the fact that you could field them very simply by purchasing Rangers of the North and Dunedain, it made for a rather inexpensive army that could mop the table in the LoME. As it is, I haven't been able to experiment with my Grey Company since the Warbands came out, though I'm looking forward to the experience.

And imo, picking up the Rangers is a very useful thing to do, as you can use them, not only to supplement an Arnor or Grey Compnay force or warband, but also to fit in with folks from Gondor and the Fiefdoms.
Author:  Draugluin [ Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:36 pm ]
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King Ondoher wrote:
Dunedain Captain. 50pts.

F 4 S 4 A 2 W 2 C 4 Might 2 Will 2 Fate 1.

Equipment: Armour, bow.

Can purchase:
- Spear for 1pt.
- Heavy Armour for 5pts.
- Horse for 10pts.

(Using a Captain of Minas Tirith as a standard).

Following every single other warrior-to-captain comparison (unless I missed one), he should have 1 more fight and courage and of course have 5D.
Author:  D0Cdeath [ Mon Aug 27, 2012 1:32 pm ]
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Hi draugluin I'm not sure what your trying to point out please explain , thanks
Author:  whafrog [ Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:28 pm ]
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A Dunedain Captain should be at least as good as a Dunedain, with F5 and C5. The D isn't listed in Ondoher's stat line.
Author:  D0Cdeath [ Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:15 pm ]
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Sorry about this as you've probably guess I've just started play SBG , which page is the the stats to which your referring I've got the kingdom of men book :)
Author:  Draugluin [ Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:24 pm ]
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Those stats aren't in the book, they're the suggested stats for a house rule. If you compare a Warrior of Minas Tirith to a Captain, you will see that all of the standard stats are 1 higher for the captain and the might is always 2/1/1. This holds true for every case of warrior to captain upgrades.
Author:  GothmogtheWerewolf [ Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:36 pm ]
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Draugluin wrote:
Those stats aren't in the book, they're the suggested stats for a house rule. If you compare a Warrior of Minas Tirith to a Captain, you will see that all of the standard stats are 1 higher for the captain and the might is always 2/1/1. This holds true for every case of warrior to captain upgrades.

Excluding Wild Wargs and Black Guard of Barad-dur.
Author:  Draugluin [ Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:02 pm ]
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I always forget about the Wargs, but I thought that the Black Guard held true, except they gain a special rule.
Author:  GothmogtheWerewolf [ Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:52 pm ]
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Nearly, closer than Wargs, but the Guard Captains don't have the +1 strength that the rest of them have, and there's the aforementioned special rule.
Author:  SouthernDunedain [ Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:07 pm ]
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GothmogtheWerewolf wrote:
Nearly, closer than Wargs, but the Guard Captains don't have the +1 strength that the rest of them have, and there's the aforementioned special rule.


Yeah but if the BG captains got +1 str then they would be as strong as a troll...just doesnt seem right, as much as that would be awesome.
Author:  GothmogtheWerewolf [ Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:26 pm ]
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SouthernDunedain wrote:
GothmogtheWerewolf wrote:
Nearly, closer than Wargs, but the Guard Captains don't have the +1 strength that the rest of them have, and there's the aforementioned special rule.


Yeah but if the BG captains got +1 str then they would be as strong as a troll...just doesnt seem right, as much as that would be awesome.

Mainly because if they were that strong, the rules would allow Guard Captains to count as 3 models for pushing siege equipment which would be bending the rules, a line had to be drawn. Though, you're right it would be awesome, though they're good as it is.
Author:  Draugluin [ Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:58 pm ]
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Ok, I forgot about that. Never used the minis, so I never had to know the rules.
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