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Author:  Oldman Willow [ Wed Jan 07, 2015 4:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Female Black Numenorean W.I.P
I am not about to enter a discussion on women's roles :shock:
I think the idea of converting some Female Black Numenorean is cool.
One of my friends did some armoured females a while back. Reaper sells some of them.
http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/Da ... test/03681
http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/Cr ... test/14212
http://www.reapermini.com/graphics/gall ... 2A_w_1.jpg
http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/Cr ... test/14213
http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/Cr ... test/14224
also from reaper
http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/Cr ... test/14093
http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/Da ... test/03643

Bones cheap enough to convert dozens.

http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/Bones/latest/77077
http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/Bones/latest/77079

My choice to convert
http://www.reapermini.com/Miniatures/Bones/latest/77052

Bones is a plastic product at 1/10th the cost of fine cast. I would argue that it is far safer to use than fine cast. Wear a dust mask and wash your hands when you file or sand any kind of resin.
Author:  Sithious [ Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Female Black Numenorean W.I.P
I agree with O.W. above.
Reaper has tons of fantasy women models. As I said, in Fantasy I can name many great female fighters. I am 2000% for women fighting in fantasy worlds, incase that was not clear, I was never against that part of it, just in Tolkiens works, he held to the Earth like male domination aspect. My GF is a 2nd degree Black Belt and instructor, trust me women can fight.

So I also love Reapers prices and bones are great white cheap plastic easy to work with models. So if you are going to convert more, there are many to choose from, including some awesome dark elf models that, with proper painting, would be any elf race in ME, with some cool armor.
Author:  Crucium Giger [ Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Female Black Numenorean W.I.P
Not too high jack a thread but I'll be adding some female miniatures to my Black Numenorean army (I already have the minis it's just case of painting them) as well. Not something I purpose went for but the new minis I have from them include both sexes.
Author:  Toxic [ Thu Jan 08, 2015 6:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Female Black Numenorean W.I.P
What have I started lol

The point of making a female BN was because I feel other than Shelob and the Spider Queen there are no female heroes for the evil side, being mostly interested in Mordor myself it kind of felt harder to immerse myself into the game. I know apart from 3 characters (all being beasts) Tolkien never wrote about any female villains, so I came up with a female BN to lead my army in smaller point games, a little OC of mine that could fit within the canon somewhere (unlike a certain Hobbit character).

I have no plans to adding any more into my army as of yet but I will at some point when I come to remaking the character. But until then I have a scatha, some goblin mercs, a siege troll and a few orc OC's (some interesting ides I borrowed from Shadow of Mordor).
Author:  Hirumith, the Grey Knight [ Fri Jan 09, 2015 3:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Female Black Numenorean W.I.P
Great job! The head looks big, but not necessarily too big - as you point out, it could easily just be a rather large crown/helmet (which most of GW's Black Numenoreans are sporting anyways). I personally don't ink the arm looks disproportionately large, just covered in heavy robes. The leng of e arm and size of the hand, which is what counts, look fine to me.

Conceptually, I think she's fine. If anything, I'd say she's very much in line with Tolkien's portrayal of women. Yes, they are few and far between (that goes for Tolkien's mention of women in general, warriors or not), but those that are mentioned seem more often to be powerful leaders than just rank and file troops, so one powerful Black Numenorean heroine at the head of a warband seems just fine, to me.

Anyways, nice work! Looking forward to seeing her painted.
Author:  J.R. [ Sat Jan 10, 2015 2:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Female Black Numenorean W.I.P
pfew, what a discussion came out here, regarding my reasons for not linking the concept : I simply dont like the idea of a black numenorean commander woman.

It has nothing to do with it being possible ( in fiction history ) or being in line with Tolkiens Ideas. None can say for sure. ALthough Eomer does voice some strong ideas with his : "War is the province of Men" (although that was more movie than book wasn't it ? :)

The reason I mentioned my dislike is because I realy like the conversion and find it very well executed, but would never think of doing it myself because it would not fit in my idea of a black numenorean army.
But that was not the main point , which is : CONVERSION WELL DONE!
Author:  Toxic [ Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Goblin Mercinaries W.I.P
First up we have my first attempt at a Gundabad Orc from an Uruk-hai. Turned out a bit Devlan Mud, though I know where I went wrong (no plasticard *cough*)
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Next we have the 3 goblins I'm currently working on, the greenstuff hasn't hardened yet so I'm still working on the ears and the finer details on the armour. Wanted to do these with plasticard but I couldn't wait the few extra days until it arrives.
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Forgive the not so great camera work, Ill get better pics once they're finished!!
Author:  CaptainBlake [ Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Goblin Mercinaries W.I.P
Hello,

nice ideas! You dont necessarily need plasticcard. After curing greenstuff can be cut, filed and sanded to give it more defintion and generally making it look more like a 'hard' material (sharp edges, straight surfaces etc)
Maybe you can try that afterwards ;)
Author:  Toxic [ Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Goblin Mercinaries W.I.P
CaptainBlake wrote:
Hello,

nice ideas! You dont necessarily need plasticcard. After curing greenstuff can be cut, filed and sanded to give it more defintion and generally making it look more like a 'hard' material (sharp edges, straight surfaces etc)
Maybe you can try that afterwards ;)


I actually will try that! Time to cut up a few more goblins and uruks :P
Author:  Toxic [ Sat Jun 20, 2015 2:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Goblin Mercinaries W.I.P
Wow it's been a while hasn't it? Well I started painting my female BN (about damn time!, I'll take pics in a sec)

Annnnd I've started work on a catapult troll. Now before you judge know that its a very early WIP and that I'm taking a few artistic liberties (by adding armour etc).

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Author:  Constantine [ Sat Jun 20, 2015 4:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Catapult troll W.I.P
:shock: This has to be the most bad-as-ed troll I have ever seen!
Author:  Gandlaf the Grey [ Sat Jun 20, 2015 4:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Catapult troll W.I.P
Nice job on the conversion. He just needs some battle damage on the armour.
Author:  ste271276 [ Sun Jun 21, 2015 9:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Catapult troll W.I.P
Lol. Iv just bought the exact same troll off eBay for the exact same purpose!
Author:  warrior of the north [ Sun Jun 21, 2015 10:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Catapult troll W.I.P
Very cool looking troll can u send or pm me a link of where you have bought the troll, because I very like it and its perfect for making BotFA trolls!
Author:  ste271276 [ Sun Jun 21, 2015 11:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Catapult troll W.I.P
eaglemoss cave troll, it came as part of a collection of magazines
Author:  haradrim [ Sun Jun 21, 2015 6:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Catapult troll W.I.P
wow ! fantastic idea ! when i saw the film i promise to myself to build one of this !
what scale it is ?? and which material? metal i think...
Author:  Toxic [ Sun Jun 21, 2015 10:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Catapult troll W.I.P
haradrim wrote:
wow ! fantastic idea ! when i saw the film i promise to myself to build one of this !
what scale it is ?? and which material? metal i think...


I'll get a pic beside a human character. It's a lot bigger than the plastic trolls that GW make, he's mounted on a 60mm base (and I think that's kinda small tbh)


The troll is from a collectors magazine that I got from ebay for about £10. Gonna order 5 more :P
Author:  Toxic [ Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Catapult troll W.I.P
Okay some progress on the troll.

Working on the catapult, added more plates to the armour. Still a lot more work to do. The goblin is just for scale, he'll be mounted on the trolls neck and will be the captain commanding the rest of the crew.

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Author:  Oldman Willow [ Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Catapult troll W.I.P
Very nice!
Author:  generalripphook [ Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Catapult troll W.I.P
For your defense of the female black Numenorian, I would not that a few rulers of Numenor were actually in fact women. As for the goodness or evilness of them there was definitely corruption by Sauron in there.

Here is also a few pictures of a guy who makes some amazing models which include female dark elves for warhammer fantasy.

http://druchii.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php ... 62abea9987
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