All times are UTC


It is currently Thu Jun 27, 2024 9:24 pm



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 84 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
Author Message
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:43 am 
Wayfarer
Wayfarer
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:30 pm
Posts: 8
Location: Finland
I haven't logged in for a year. This made me do it.

Spectacular work!
Too good to describe.
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:29 am 
Craftsman
Craftsman
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2009 9:00 pm
Posts: 393
Location: Sydney, Australia
Whoa man, that is such a stunning job, you pay so much attention to detail :shock:

_________________
"The board is set, the pieces are moving."
Gandalf, The Return of the King

www.YouTube.com/LotrWarhammer24
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:47 am 
Elven Warrior
Elven Warrior
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:24 am
Posts: 934
Location: Australia
Oh my god.

That is freakishly good.

:yay:
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:34 am 
Wayfarer
Wayfarer
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sun Oct 18, 2009 11:49 pm
Posts: 10
Location: RVA USA
This is truly inspiring work. I'd send photos of that in to Nottingham, if I were you. Bravo!

_________________
Gil-Galad ech vaegannen matha,
Aith helegnín I orch gostatha;
Nin cíniel na nguruthos
Hon essnín istatha: Aiglos.
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: incredible
PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:57 am 
Wayfarer
Wayfarer
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:53 pm
Posts: 10
Location: BELGIUM
oh my god
all my congratulations

it's my dream to realize this tower

you can see in my gallery also all my creation

http://www.one-ring.co.uk/phpBB2/album_ ... er_id=2516

can i have also your plan et step to step construction in order to realise my tower ?

thanks a lot for your response and all my congratulations

_________________
Fan of Arwen
Fan of lord of the rings
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:00 pm 
Administrator
Administrator
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Tue May 17, 2005 7:51 pm
Posts: 1130
Location: Porto - Portugal
Images: 27
Absolutelly gobsmacking! Its trully amazing. Your projects are an inspiration to us all. The amount of detail you put in those BIG projects of yours is insane.

I have to ask, how big is this piece going to be and can you estimate the amount of time you invested on it? Both should be out of scale, really.

Congratulations, you have a great tallent.

Keep it up! ;)

_________________
Tell me... Do you bleed?
You will!
Chewy, we're home!
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:27 am 
Administrator
Administrator
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Mon Feb 09, 2004 5:44 pm
Posts: 1494
Location: Lokeren, Belgium
respect mate!
Where do you find the patience to progress so far in a project gigantic like this full of tasty details?
You're the true master in scenerybuilding! No other would be worth baring your nickname!

It makes me silent and jealous, heh :)
8) just too wonderfull for words :yay:

_________________
CMON-gallery
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:42 pm 
Elven Warrior
Elven Warrior
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:53 am
Posts: 651
Location: Rath Celerdain
How do you do it, Adrian?
As always you've made a fantastic model.. is it to scale with GW minis? I can't be bothered checking the thread to find out.


As I said, it's a fantastic piece of work, and I'll stop now before I seem cliché'ed. :wink:





Congratulations!

_________________
"Mustard the Rohirrim! We've got to ketchup with those Uruk-fries before they capture the Hornburger!"
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:49 pm 
Elven Warrior
Elven Warrior
Offline

Joined: Sun Feb 22, 2009 4:46 pm
Posts: 881
Location: United Kingdom
It really is STUNNING! :yay:

SO MUCH detail! :yay:

_________________
TO9G - 2010 Isengard
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:32 pm 
Kinsman
Kinsman
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Thu Jan 13, 2005 4:35 pm
Posts: 129
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Amazing, you've spared no details, stunning.

Our of curiosity, where do you put these incredible pieces of yours? Are they at some local hobby store to be awed by passer byes, or are they god forbid collecting dust in some cabinet like my stuff?

_________________
l'Homme n'est Rien, l'Oeuvre Tout
Visit my website
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:29 pm 
Elven Warrior
Elven Warrior
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:46 pm
Posts: 897
Location: Hear the sinister whisper of steel on leather? The quiet footsteps? You've found me.
Olofer wrote:
Quote:
Amazing, you've spared no details, stunning.

Our of curiosity, where do you put these incredible pieces of yours? Are they at some local hobby store to be awed by passer byes, or are they god forbid collecting dust in some cabinet like my stuff?


It should be right in the middle of his front room window! :-D

Or in a hobby shop, if you think common people are worthy to lay eyes on it. :-D

_________________
Flying is the practice of trying to crash into the ground and missing.
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:51 pm 
Kinsman
Kinsman
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2008 8:03 pm
Posts: 128
I’m sorry lads for the delay but I was camping out in The Wild for a few days, protecting a bunch of teenagers from - nah, I’m sure you don’t want to hear all about that. :no:

So instead, let’s react to your kind remarks.

@ Mordae: I’m honoured. I did a bit of rummaging into your past (click HERE) and it looks to me you’re an inspired artist yourself. This time you better stay around, to the benefit of the OR community!

@ Alfirin: I did. They weren’t interested.

@ arwenforever: as you probably know I made a ‘DIY tutorial’ for the construction of the Black Gate. Compared to Barad-dûr, the Gate is a very straight-forward model. Nevertheless it needed a lot of explanation & templates to build even a single gate-wing. It is my guess that to do the same for the Dark Tower, it would take me over a year to write it all down; and I would have to produce ten times more templates for all these elements to construct. Only P.J. himself can make me do that – and he hasn’t asked me yet. :roll: But please feel free to use all the information you can extract from this WIP and from the articles at my own scenery-site. Also, don’t hesitate to ask questions about specific construction problems. You’re welcome!

@ MacGothmog: the next – and last – update will hopefully answer all your questions. But of course you’re aware that, although this is a ‘WIP-thread’, this model of Barad-dûr was already completed last summer (?).

@ TheBucklandBrewer: I hate to correct you, Bart, but you seem to be overlooking a few other Masters in our community – yourselves being not the least of them! (but I won’t deny I was immensely flattered by your spontaneous outburst – you should have seen the grin on my face! :rofl: )

@ Captain Ingold: Pictures with GW minis included will definitely appear in Part IV. How do I do it? I don’t know… somehow these structures do sprout from my fingers when I’m not looking. But you better not ask me to make your coffee or fix your bike…

@ Olofér: They are god forbid collecting dust like your stuff. And thank you kindly, Anduril Blade of Kings, but if I would put the tower right in the middle of my front room window I would loose the missus for sure.

@ you all: Thanks! I’ll be back! 8)

_________________
Ab hac die aut deserta tene aut in mare demerge
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 7:22 pm 
Kinsman
Kinsman
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2008 8:03 pm
Posts: 128
… And here’s the Last Chapter of the Black Book of Barad-dûr.
Read & Enjoy: :)

VIII. ‘Founded upon a mighty mountain-throne’

Image

To build up this gothic wedding cake I had to construct an endless series of separate components, ranging from the ‘huge’ horns of the topmost pinnacle to the tiny battlements that crown the shooting-towers. It isn’t the size, though, that’s decisive for the amount of labour involved: it’s the number of particles of a certain component that has to be worked on and worked up. It took less than an hour and a half to construct the bridge above, cutting strips, spikes and all. However, between the first glance at the screen to study the bridge and the instalment of the very last spike, more than six hours went by…

Image

Texturing and painting took another ten minutes, to make the miniature look like a bridge over troubled earth.

Image

The fortress was put against a plate of MDF; a line that represented the ridge of the mountain spur was drawn onto the board. As the walls of Barad-dûr are rising from a chasm, I had to establish the ground level: it’s the horizontal, dotted line beneath the crest.

Image

A floor plan was cut out from another plate of MDF. The idea was to have the lava river running at ground zero, with the adjacent rocks gradually sloping up against the walls. The positions of the two front towers and the pillars of the bridge had to be measured accurately from the main gate.

Image

Between the bastions I cleared some space for the towers to stand on the floor plate. Once they were in position I would add more rockeries in the foreground.

Image

Thus far I had been careful to keep the three main bodies of the fortress apart. There were so many projections on each of them that any sudden movement was likely going to knock off a spike, a battlement or a pinnacle. The less of the tower there was to reckon with, the better. At this stage, however, I had no choice but to glue the middle section onto the lower defences in order to complete the “mighty mountain-throne” whereupon Barad-dûr is seated. On both sides of the model, sheet piling was installed, together with two ‘surface’-tablets.

Image

‘Behind it there hung a vast shadow, ominous as a thundercloud, the veils of Barad-dûr that was reared far away upon a long spur of the Ashen Mountains thrust down from the North’.
(from: The Return of the King, page 293)

Image

Lastly, the bridge and the towers were glued in place. Small quantities of foam were carefully sprayed to cover the open ground.

Image

Years ago, when I made my ‘Playalong-toy’-model of Mount Doom, I had poured red and yellow paint into the cracks of the volcano. From the start of the Barad-dûr II project I had had the intention to use the same ‘technique’ on the lava stream that circles the fortress. Now, with the miniature nearly finished and not wanting to spend extra money on tubes of acrylic paint, I decided to use my spray cans once more. I cut out the contours of the lava stream from a newspaper and sprayed the paper streamer with yellow, orange and red paint before gluing it onto the MDF. Next, a small amount of GW Modelling Sand was sprayed with black paint and mixed with some diluted wood glue. This stuff was spread evenly over the paper and then left to dry. As a result, I got these nice congestions of cooled down rock on the seething surface of the lava.

Image

“Building miniatures is like taking a math exam:
If you do the equations correctly, you’ll get a hundred percent.
Get them wrong and you’ll fail”.

Richard Taylor, in Sibley’s ‘The Making of the Movie Trilogy’, page 67.


IX. ‘Between smoking chasms’

Image

The Gorgoroth surface was broken into pieces and then put together again like a jig-saw puzzle to create the cracks of the ‘tormented earth’.

Image

Next, Sauron’s Road and the lava channel were installed, both making up the MSR (Mordor Supply Route) that runs from the Sammath Naur to Barad-dûr.

Image

Polyurethane cliffs were added.

Image

It is told in “The Downfall of Númenor” that Sauron was envious of the splendour of the Lords of the West and that he was astounded when he first looked upon their lands (‘The Silmarillion’, pages 321, 326). This makes it plausible that Sauron took pains to ‘embellish’ the hot spots of his dark realm with triumphal arches, horns, spires and the like. Both in the ‘Shire-Baggins!’-scene and that of the ‘Union of the two towers’ there are glimpses of these two monumental structures that signpost the end of the MSR.

Image

The Fellowship comes marching in

It is only when you realize that all these tiny dots of light that are moving towards the bridgehead are actually torches, carried by many thousands of Orcs, that you get an understanding of the colossal dimensions of these structures (for an incoming Orc, it must have been as if he was beholding la Grande Arche de Paris and the Gateway Arch of St. Louis at a glance). Nevertheless, these Megastructures must have paled into insignificance beside the bulk of the fortress behind it.

Needless to say it took several hours to think out a construction plan for these arches and less than thirty minutes to get them actually built.

Image

I ended up right back where I started. Some last-minute improvements were applied to the twin horns: to mimic the metal plating against the outward faces, small vertical strips of cardboard were added. For a moment I feared that they would wreck the wicked shape of the tower but rather the opposite happened: somehow they gave a harsher look to the pinnacle without becoming too showy themselves.


X. ‘His cruelty, his malice’

“It is a gorgeous set to shoot, because you really can’t light it wrong. Wherever you put light, it gives you wonderful shadows!”
(Alex Funke, Weta’s Visual Effects Director of Photography, in: “The Appendices”, Part 4)

Image

Principal photography – if I may use this professional definition for taking my petty snaps – usually takes two or three days. My camera isn’t state of the art, nor is the editing software that I use. But I have learned a trick or two to manipulate the atmosphere of the pictures. Basically, it’s a Stone Age version of what is called ‘digital grading’ by the Visual Effects wizards of Weta: the modification of the original quality and colour range of a shot. In essence it comes down to the next five operations:

1) Suck away a lot of the blue and some of the red to get rid of all cheerfulness;
2) add a little more green for a spooky aura;
3) bring down the ‘brightness’-slide to increase the amount of gloom & doom;
4) bring up the ‘contrast’-slide to get a harsher lighting;
5) bring down the ‘Saturation’-slide for an ashen, metallic look.

Of course, all the sliding needs to be done with caution and discretion. But with luck you catch the dreadful mood that weights down heavily upon the Land of Shadow.

In the end, I did shoot a total of hundred-and-eighty-one pictures of the tower. Six of them passed Selection.

Image

The Bugler at the Gates of Doom

According to John Howe, who did the original design work on Barad-dûr, the tower rose up to three thousand feet: that’s over 914m. At Weta Workshop in Miramar, Richard Taylor and his team built a model at 1 : 166 scale which ultimately measured 27feet / 8.22m. They had to make it in sections because otherwise it wouldn’t fit in their construction stage…

Now if I had built my tower in agreement with the Games Workshop minis, I would have met similar problems. The Aragorn mini of the Mines of Moria-box stands a proud 3cm high; Tolkien however tells us that the actual height of this hero is six foot six, i.e. 1.98m. Comparatively, any model of the Dark Tower at GW scale should rise up to 45½feet or 13.85m.

From bottom to top, my Tower measures 4 foot 4 / 1.33m. The Gorgoroth-surface makes a 33’’ x 29’’ square (0.85cm x 0.73cm). The twin horn-shape is computed roughly by the mathematical equation of y = 0.44x2. The Boromir mini in the picture should have been exactly ten times smaller to play a serious role in this part of Middle-earth.

Image

According to myth, the Miniature Technicians at Weta usually got two weeks to complete a model. Undoubtedly Peter Jackson allowed them some extra time to construct the twenty-seven feet high model of Barad-dûr. Compared to their ‘Gothic cathedral’ (in the words of John Howe), mine is but a poor countryside chapel. Still, it took me nearly three months to conjure this well-shaped encumbrance…

Image

One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie…


Im Morloth hain echant

_________________
Ab hac die aut deserta tene aut in mare demerge
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:20 pm 
Elven Warrior
Elven Warrior
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:53 am
Posts: 651
Location: Rath Celerdain
Absolutely Brilliant Adrian! AS always your work is stunning, and nigh on impossible to tell apart from the version in the film. (I have a way to tell them apart though: yours is the better one :wink: )


Great model Adrian, I presume it's scaled to SBG minis? Or have I asked that before?


EDIT: Reading further up, I haev asked that before. Don't bother answering the question. :oops:

_________________
"Mustard the Rohirrim! We've got to ketchup with those Uruk-fries before they capture the Hornburger!"


Last edited by Captain Ingold on Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:50 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:30 pm 
Kinsman
Kinsman
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 2:12 am
Posts: 90
Location: California!
Images: 1
Truly an inspiration to us all! your work is absolutely breathtaking! Its just too bad you don't have a 3 story abandoned warehouse in your possession so you could build this to scale!

_________________
"...all we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us." -Gandalf The fellowship of the Ring
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:38 pm 
Elven Warrior
Elven Warrior
Offline

Joined: Sun Feb 22, 2009 4:46 pm
Posts: 881
Location: United Kingdom
It has been extremely interesting to read how you went about building this monstrous construction; I'm certain it's one of the Seven Wonders of the Modelling Miniature World! :yay:

_________________
TO9G - 2010 Isengard
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:00 am 
Elven Warrior
Elven Warrior
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:42 am
Posts: 854
Location: Las Vegas
Simply amazing, Adrian. Its hard to find the right words to describe such an amazing piece. Congrats on a job well done. :)

_________________
" I think I'm... quite ready for another adventure!"

Bilbo
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:41 am 
Kinsman
Kinsman
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sat Nov 15, 2008 8:10 pm
Posts: 88
Location: Poland
I would see it in real..
AMAZING !! BEAUTIFUL !!

Very good job - with writing, taking pictures and making this scenery of course.
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:36 am 
Elven Warrior
Elven Warrior
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Mon Feb 19, 2007 12:23 pm
Posts: 760
Truly amazing, I'm lost for words.

Are you also making a certain flaming body part to complete it?
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:23 am 
Loremaster
Loremaster
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:57 am
Posts: 1223
truely amazing... you've done a fantastic job of it, as well as giving plenty of insperation to others... Think we're all lost for words :yay:

Well done & good work!!

thank you
Drumtastic
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 84 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 36 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to: