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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:04 pm 
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Yes the Creek Bed rocks look really good, nice to see the are doing a mold as well.
Watched the mixing video, wow was my mix to liquid, live and learn and know for my next mix.
Will check tomorrow on my Molds and let you know how it's going, also experimenting with powder pigments and oil washes on my Weather Top rock, looking good but a bit more work needed until I post any pictures.

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It would have looked better to have two wide steps but I did dot leave room because I did not plan for it. I wil add a floor instead.

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I think a two inch arch will look better than the 1 and 1/2 inch or the three inch arch at the top of the stairs. I will have to make a Gothic style arch.

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Yes the Creek Bed rocks look really good, nice to see the are doing a mold as well.
Watched the mixing video, wow was my mix to liquid, live and learn and know for my next mix.
Will check tomorrow on my Molds and let you know how it's going, also experimenting with powder pigments and oil washes on my Weather Top rock, looking good but a bit more work needed until I post any pictures.

I am looking forward to photos

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 3:34 pm 
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I have brought the molds into the house to dry them out, the Hydrocal is still soft.
If its not cured tomorrow i will start again.

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I have brought the molds into the house to dry them out, the Hydrocal is still soft.
If its not cured tomorrow i will start again.


Pour it out it will be too soft. Wash the mold in a bucket don't let the waste down your drain. It will settle in the drain and clog it. Let the lumpy ruin dry out on some news paper. If it drys out in a interesting shape you may be able to use it.
You should be able to demold most cast in side a hour.
Which molds did you get?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:49 pm 
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Well thats a nice messy job to look forward to! just cleaned out the airbrush that was in a pretty disgusting mess. A got G1232 small rocks and G1233 rocks.
Once i can get it right i plan to get the 5 Hirst molds you listed, then i want to make ruins for Arnor and Angmar, 2 of my favorite areas. I have ideas for Fornost ruins.
Also Bree, would love to make The Prancing Pony. There is a brilliant plan of it in "The Atlas of Tolkiens Middle-Earth" by Karen Wynn Fonstad, she also did a good Dragonlance World Atlas as well

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:13 pm 
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I am going to make two more molds this week end. I need some more custom sizes for Helms Deep,the Seeing Seat and Moria details.

I am going to start putting together the large columns for the Moria Halls.

Tell me what you think of the rope and Roman style columns. They are not for Moria.

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Please take lots of photos as you paint your model so that I can build the other side. I have never had the money at the same time that the DF model was available. I will have to build one.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 11:07 pm 
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A very snazzy Weathertop piece - and I really like the sandstone colours (as a former geology student and frequent mountain climber, I am intimately aware that most rocks are not in fact grey).

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:32 am 
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Love Weathertop, love the columns, love everything you do.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 3:56 am 
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Dorthonion wrote:
A very snazzy Weathertop piece - and I really like the sandstone colours (as a former geology student and frequent mountain climber, I am intimately aware that most rocks are not in fact grey).


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:StoneMountain.jpg

Mostly gray here!
The limestone north of here is very gray almost blue gray- lots of coal. West of Texas the sandstone is red. South of the Piedmont the limestone is very nearly white.They used to mine pink and white marble and barite in north GA . Most of the dolomite is dark gray with white and pink crystals in thin veins.

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It only looks grey (gray) from a distance - look at it up close and you see there is much, much more to it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Quart ... mw1037.jpg
I spend a lot of time in Donegal where most of the rock is granite or other plutonic quartz-heavy variations overlaid with peat bogs and glacial deposits. The mountains, hills and beaches are old, old friends for me - maybe that is why I have always liked the Dunedain Rangers, being a bit of a wanderer myself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_Donegal
As for the panoramic view from the top of Errigal - I have walked and climbed everything you can see from that point many, many times in all weathers. Some of the colour in the rocks comes not from the minerals but from lichen growing on it - lichens can be extraordinary colours - sunset oranges, bright yellows, rich rust reds. Nature has a palette we can only admire.
And if the weather was not so miserable, and the cloud so low, I would be able to see Grianan Ailigh from where I am sitting.

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It only looks grey (gray) from a distance - look at it up close and you see there is much, much more to it

It actually quarries near white. The gray was a reference to the Confederate Memorial. :)

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 5:32 pm 
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Will start to take photos of Weather Top tomorrow in sun light as its dark here now and my camera is bad in artificial light.

The Columns look great, very Middle Earth, i am sure they would fit in anywhere.

Great Success today with the molds, i have worked out the Hydrocal mix, like the guy in video say, get it like Mayonnaise! just got the rocks and boulders out of the molds and they look brilliant, well pleased. Thanks for your advise.
Will take some pics in day light tomorrow of them as well.

I can see this casting business is a bit addictive!

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The Mix needs to be thinner for Hirst Arts molds. It needs to pour like cream.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:16 am 
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The Mix needs to be thinner for Hirst Arts molds. It needs to pour like cream.


Thanks, i will do that. Picture of my first successful casts

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Cured really nicely overnight. Now to paint some.

I have started to post more Weather Top Pictures on my WIP

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Removable roofs

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Hidden passage from crypt.

I have several ideas for using this model in a role playing game.I do not want to change the outward appearance. I think it will be fun to add some unexpected details.

The walls are 1/8" MDF and are hot glued in place. I will use 1/2' plywood for the core so that I can use wood screws.

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Core parts from scrap plywood and MDF

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Parts removed to show secret entrance.

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It will be necessary to paint many of the components before assembly.

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I need to cast more parts for the facade

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Your life must be an endless mix of casting and laying out. I must say it is worth it as each project is an inspiration.

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Gandlaf the Grey wrote:
Your life must be an endless mix of casting and laying out. I must say it is worth it as each project is an inspiration.

:rofl: I do a little more than that :)
Some times I wish I could work on it for four or five hours at one time so I could make some real progress. The casting and gluing involves a lot of drying time. It is great for me. I can be creative and still have time for all of the things we all have to do.

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Wow, this is becoming awesome! So many fantastic and inspiring ideas here! Magnificent, as always! :yay:
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The work looks awesome.

I am not sure I would have patience to keep making bricks to put together, I would want hundreds at a time made so I could just keep building.

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