speak for the wotr game not the films
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| Author: | ellessar aragorn [ Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | which side i most strong? |
i think the good |
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| Author: | Anduril Blade of Kings [ Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:21 pm ] |
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If it weren't for Frodo destroying the ring, evil would have completely obliterated middle-earth (we are speaking LOTR-term good and evil, right?) The bad guys outnumbered the good guys several hundred to one, at least. Keep in mind, 300,000 Orcs assaulted Minas Tirith and there were at least that many, if not more at the Black Gate in reserve. I doubt that Gondor, Elves and Rohan could have raised 100,000 together. Speaking in military terms, the evil side was by far the more powerful. Although, since this is in the WOTR forum, is this speaking in game terms? In which case I don't know, as I don't play WOTR. You were a little vague in your wording. |
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| Author: | ellessar aragorn [ Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | wrong |
speak for the wotr game not the films
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| Author: | Feanorthenoldor [ Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:37 pm ] |
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ummm anduril i have to correct you only 200,000 orcs assaulted minis tirith...... sorry but i am someone whose pet peeve is people not getting minor infor right.. any ways feanorthenoldor |
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| Author: | General Elessar [ Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:03 pm ] |
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Actually, I don't think Tolkien specifically says anywhere how many Orcs attacked Minas Tirith or were present at the Battle of Pelennor Fields. |
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| Author: | Feanorthenoldor [ Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:09 pm ] |
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i read in a book called Lord of the rings weapons and warfare, that the defenders of minis tirith killed about 50,000 orcs and when Theoden and the Rohirrim arrived there were 150,000 orcs left... so that makes sense. |
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| Author: | Lord Hurin [ Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: wrong |
ellessar aragorn wrote: speak for the wotr game not the films There were books too, you know... Feanorthenoldor wrote: i read in a book called Lord of the rings weapons and warfare, that the defenders of minis tirith killed about 50,000 orcs and when Theoden and the Rohirrim arrived there were 150,000 orcs left... so that makes sense.
That book is based solely on the films. While Peter Jackson may have said there were 200,000 Orcs at the Pelennor, General Elessar may be right in saying that Tolkien never specified. |
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| Author: | thewhitehand [ Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:39 pm ] |
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on the dvd special features it says 600,000 attacked Minas Tirith? |
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| Author: | Feanorthenoldor [ Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:27 pm ] |
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whitehand, 600,000 is way too much, i think they meant the Battle of the Last Alliance where there were 100,000 good v about 700,000 evil... anduril is right i just checked, tolkien never specified how many orcs attacked minis tirith but hey let's just say there were many many many orcies there... lol anyway i think that the good armies are the better in wotr, especially the elves, with their fire power. that's my opinion feanorthenoldor |
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| Author: | theblackcaptain [ Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:21 am ] |
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Tolkien never specifies..all we know was evil had far more power and military might at its disposal than good; to the point where waging war against sauron would only end in defeat and enslavement ( or death ) we do know there were about 6000 riders or rohan at the pelennor (bookswise) and that they were outnumbered at least three to one by the haradrim alone, meaning there were at least 18, 000 haradrim, and a great deal of other evil mean not to mention the whole shatload of orcs that they don't even bother to count. as to who is more powerful in the game? I'd have to say evil...they have access to the best line troops (morranons) the most powerful bows (crossbows) and access to cheap, dirty and effective spellcasters (nazgul and durzag) |
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| Author: | DainIronfoot [ Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:25 am ] |
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Yes but Good has more might with Counsellor and better heroes ex- Dain, Legolas, Aragorn, Gandalf, Radagast, Boromir, Gimli, Gil Galad, Elendial, and Galadriel! |
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| Author: | theblackcaptain [ Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:49 am ] |
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DainIronfoot wrote: Yes but Good has more might with Counsellor and better heroes
ex- Dain, Legolas, Aragorn, Gandalf, Radagast, Boromir, Gimli, Gil Galad, Elendial, and Galadriel! all of whom are very expensive and can be countered with nazgul. not to mention evil has powerful heroes of its own like gothmog, lurtz, amdur, saruman, khamul, the betrayer, suladan and nazgul/ witch king on fell beasts. lurtz, suladan, gothmog and amdur can hold their own with just about any good hero as it is but when you have black breath thrown into the mix it ends in a very quick and messy death for the good hero in question. |
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| Author: | DainIronfoot [ Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:40 am ] |
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But we have more might! Counselling Back and Forth can increase your might to tons! |
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| Author: | ellessar aragorn [ Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | no one |
okay in some hours i will deleted this post because no one understand. 
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| Author: | Lord Hurin [ Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: no one |
ellessar aragorn wrote: okay in some hours i will deleted this post because no one understand.
You need to be more specific. Are you talking about in the books, films, SBG or WoTR? People have given you answers to what you asked, which was "which side is stronger?" The fact that you didn't add context to that question isn't our fault... |
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| Author: | Longbottom Leaf [ Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: no one |
Lord Hurin wrote: ellessar aragorn wrote: okay in some hours i will deleted this post because no one understand. You need to be more specific. Are you talking about in the books, films, SBG or WoTR? People have given you answers to what you asked, which was "which side is stronger?" The fact that you didn't add context to that question isn't our fault... Well, it is in the WoTR forum. 
However, I do agree with you that he needed to make the post far more clear. Also ellessar, you can't delete a thread. Only moderators can. Edit: I also voted for Evil. 
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| Author: | ellessar aragorn [ Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | ? |
okay if anyonecan deleted this post but i remembr that some time ago i have an erroe making 2 sames posts so idelete one ofthem how this happen? |
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| Author: | Longbottom Leaf [ Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: ? |
ellessar aragorn wrote: okay if anyonecan deleted this post but i remembr that some time ago i have an erroe making 2 sames posts so idelete one ofthem how this happen?
Because nobody had replied to your post. If no one has replied to the post, you can delete it. But there have been quite a few replies here, so only a RW can delete it.
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| Author: | theOneRider [ Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:25 pm ] |
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Luke Skywalker wrote: Is the Dark Side stronger? Yoda wrote: No! Quicker. Easier. More seductive.
I don't think that either is stronger in the game. GW works hard to make sure that games are fun for both sides, which is not possible if one side always gets stomped. |
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| Author: | theblackcaptain [ Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:07 am ] |
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DainIronfoot wrote: But we have more might! Counselling Back and Forth can increase your might to tons!
might can't help you if your dead. i guess it depends on whether or not you can kill the nazgul before they kill you |
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