500 Point friendly Isengard list

Kili · **Posted:** Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:42 pm

In two days I'm going to play a game with some friends. My opponents are playing dwarves and gondor, and I will have an Easterling ally. The easterling-friend will have a really, really basic army. He's just a beginner. His list will be Amdur, and the rest filled with warriors. I'm going to play Isengard, and I really want to play my Saruman and Grima

I know my Gondor enemy will use Boromirs because he always does, and he has no other big hero

I came up with this list, but it isn't too good and very elite:

Saruman
Grima
Captain with Heavy Armour
7x Berserker
7x Uruk-hai Warrior with Shield
7x Uruk-hai Warrior with Crossbow

That makes 502points total, 24men, 7bows and 5might. I know it is very elite and few numbers, but I think it will be in balance with the troop only easterling ally. I guess it's very dangerous in CC but my opponents will probably shoot half my army down while I'm trying to get to them. I could hide my guys behind the Easterlings

Any toughts?

Kiliaan

SuicidalMarsbar · **Joined:** Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:14 am **Posts:** 1712

Get rid of the captain for more guys, i know you have an ally who can level out the amount of models but you can never have too many beserkers.

{aD}??? · **Joined:** Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:17 am **Posts:** 202

I reckon you could do with some spear supports as well.

Kili · **Posted:** Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:40 am

Ok, so what about:

Saruman
Grima
7Berserkers
7Uruk-hai shield
7Orc spear
8Uruk-hai crossbow

Exactly 500points, 3might, 31men and 8bows

{aD}??? · **Joined:** Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:17 am **Posts:** 202

That looks better. I thought about a similar list but had orcs with shields instead of uruks though I think uruks would be better.

General Elessar · **Posted:** Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:26 pm

I prefer your second list as well.

Remember to use the Saruman-Berserkers combo to kill Boromir.

Kili · **Posted:** Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:40 pm

Huh?? explanation please

Saruman-berserker combo?

General Elessar · **Posted:** Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:50 pm

Use Saruman's Compel to pull out Boromir, and then surround him with Berserkers. You should be getting at least twelve attacks to wound, each with +1.

Kili · **Posted:** Sun Jun 26, 2011 7:52 pm

aah, ok I get it. I don't understand the "+1" tough

n00by me

General Elessar · **Posted:** Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:13 pm

The +1 is from the two-handed weapons.

Kili · **Posted:** Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:20 pm

Ow yeah

haha, forgot that

Kili · **Posted:** Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:09 am

I actually won! yay

The army worked pretty good and except for that my enemy had enough luck to shoot 2berserkers with only 4bows everything went pretty good. My friend decided to not bring Boromir this time (first time ever

) but I used the Compell-berserker combo and I surounded my friend's Gimli and Balin with 5berserkers (not at the same time) and did 10wounds on Gimli and 11 on Balin. Really enjoyed the overkill

Thanks for the help everyone, Kiliaan

GuardianoftheCitadel · **Joined:** Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:06 pm **Posts:** 193

Kili wrote:

I actually won! yay

The army worked pretty good and except for that my enemy had enough luck to shoot 2berserkers with only 4bows everything went pretty good. My friend decided to not bring Boromir this time (first time ever

) but I used the Compell-berserker combo and I surounded my friend's Gimli and Balin with 5berserkers (not at the same time) and did 10wounds on Gimli and 11 on Balin. Really enjoyed the overkill

Thanks for the help everyone, Kiliaan

Sounds like you really dealt out some pain with those Beserkers. Well done mate.

Kili · **Posted:** Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:24 pm

I do have a question, My enemy surrounded Grima with 4 of his guys, so I couldn't get close to any heroes of him. Can he do that or is there a rule he can't?

GuardianoftheCitadel · **Joined:** Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:06 pm **Posts:** 193

Kili wrote:

I do have a question, My enemy surrounded Grima with 4 of his guys, so I couldn't get close to any heroes of him. Can he do that or is there a rule he can't?

I think it's allowed?

Kili · **Posted:** Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:23 pm

GuardianoftheCitadel wrote:

Kili wrote:

I do have a question, My enemy surrounded Grima with 4 of his guys, so I couldn't get close to any heroes of him. Can he do that or is there a rule he can't?

I think it's allowed?

I also think it's allowed, but it's just a waste of 25 points on my part

whafrog · **Posted:** Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:29 pm

Why couldn't he do it? Besides, he probably spent more points surrounding you than you spent on Grima, so be happy

Kili · **Posted:** Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:47 pm

whafrog wrote:

Why couldn't he do it? Besides, he probably spent more points surrounding you than you spent on Grima, so be happy

Well, the problem is he used 4 moria goblins (he needed some extra points for 500points, and since we don't play very LoME-ish, we allowed him to use goblins in a dwarf army). So he only used 20points, while I used 25

{aD}??? · **Joined:** Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:17 am **Posts:** 202

Dude don't think about it points wise. It means that 1 of your models is taking 4 of his out of the contest. I would take that most of the time.

Kili · **Posted:** Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:13 am

Meh... I could also have taken 2 more Uruk-Hai and an extra Orc. They would have been a lot more useful than 4 Moria Goblins

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