isenguard 1000 points sbg what to use as power hitters

Mighty.Uruk!!! · **Joined:** Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:58 pm **Posts:** 236

ok big thing, my army is now at 1000 points but i really struggle with large numbers, what unit would be best in the isenguard army for destroying large numbers of troops.

WanderingDunedain · **Posted:** Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:12 pm

there is a maximum number limit on LOME forces anyway so you don't need to worry about being too outmanned, from personal experiance, the best way to deal with numbers, is with numbers, try not to make your force too elite

example

4 Uruk-hai Captains with Shields

10 Uruk-hai Warriors with Shields ---------------- < Your Phalanx, Tactics: Line your pikemen behind your shield men and your orcs either side, when you reach combat
20 Uruk-hai Warriors with Pikes ----------------- < your pike men will be able to fight through your shieldmen and be able to stand up to any foe, use your orcs to swarm
8 Orc Warriors with Shields ----------------------- < around the sides of your enemy line, this is an excellent way to take out groups of enemies quickly, I would put
8 Orc Warriors with Spears ----------------------- < at least two captains with this formation.
1 Orc Warrior with 2 Handed Weapon ----------- <

8 Urukhai Berserkers ------------------------------ < These guys make great hero killers, they are also pretty good at taking out blocks of enemies, place them behind your phalanx
----------------------------------------------------------formation and unleash them in combat, put a captain with them too

15 Uruk-hai Warriors with Crosbows ------------ < shoot em, take out hero's, trolls and other important figures with these guys
8 Uruk-hai Scouts with Bows --------------------- < shoot em some more

thats 999 points in total, hope i helped

Beowulf03809 · **Posted:** Mon Oct 17, 2011 8:42 pm

Isengard's Uruk Hai are some of the toughest base troops in the game. They're Captains, with Heavy Armor and Shield, are some of the most durable. I have won many games against a range of Good armies simply with lots of Uruks, a few Berserkers and a couple Captains to call Heroic Combat and help with Stand Fast if things get that far. If you go light on the base troops you're doing the solid nature of the force a disfavor.

Draugluin · **Posted:** Wed Oct 19, 2011 5:52 pm

I thought the number limit was 75 for 1000, your list is 78. To take it down a bit in numbers, trade some of the orcs with shields for more Uruk-hai with shields.

WanderingDunedain · **Posted:** Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:01 pm

my bad

SuicidalMarsbar · **Joined:** Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:14 am **Posts:** 1712

Well, an isengard troll is more than capable of killing large groups of models, but only if your troll is being covered by the rest of your army. Sharku and his warg riders are a very underrated choice for getting rid of enemy models, especially since they can get to where the enemy needs to be killed very quickly. However saruman and grima tops everything, sorcerous blast combined with grima's negation powers means that no-one on the enemy team can do anything :p

FireKnife · **Posted:** Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:00 pm

If you are after some heavy hitters or for taking out mass infantry look at backing Ferals up with Orc Warriors with Spear. You get 3 attacks at S4 if they both get in, if not then still 2 attacks at S4 and really they are not that expensive, plus have a high Courage for when the force inevitably breaks.

Also Warg Riders make a good flanking force for cutting through the enemy.

'FireKnife'

Mighty.Uruk!!! · **Joined:** Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:58 pm **Posts:** 236

ok then, so a lot of base troops. another thing though, i have a lot of uruk hai scouts in my force, what would be the best leader i could use so that i can ally them in to the isenguard army. thanks for the advice.

GothmogtheWerewolf · **Posted:** Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:59 pm

You don't need any. Uruk-hai Scouts are part of the the main Isengard list as well.

SuicidalMarsbar · **Joined:** Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:14 am **Posts:** 1712

Vrasku is the best uruk hero let alone the best scout hero.

Mighty.Uruk!!! · **Joined:** Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:58 pm **Posts:** 236

ok then, so a mega crossbow wielding maniac it is then. awesome.

by the way are ballistas powerful because i really am wondering about using one to mash people.

fritskuhntm · **Posted:** Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:06 pm

siege machines are not usually considered to be the most competitive but it is fun to play with

Draugluin · **Posted:** Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:46 pm

Siege engines are good against blocks of opponents. If they use a tactic that involves them being spread out, they don't work that well.

Beowulf03809 · **Posted:** Mon Oct 24, 2011 12:01 pm

The Uruk Ballista is a good way to threaten a major Hero though. Especially with a Captain assigned to have some Might available. Wouldn't suggest it (or any other large siege engine) under 750 points except for fun, but if you do manage to score the hit it's impressive.

WayUnderTheMountain · **Posted:** Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:09 pm

Beowulf03809 wrote:

The Uruk Ballista is a good way to threaten a major Hero though. Especially with a Captain assigned to have some Might available. Wouldn't suggest it (or any other large siege engine) under 750 points except for fun, but if you do manage to score the hit it's impressive.

You mean if you hit and the angle is right. A hit, good angle and reasonable push distance equals devastation and chaos. If you're missing any of the three, I'd hesitate to say impressive... though if you kill a Troll/Ent/Eagle/major Hero, it's amusing watching your opponent when he realizes you just insta-killed something he was hoping to devastate your ranks with.

GothmogtheWerewolf · **Posted:** Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:40 pm

Mighty.Uruk!!! wrote:

i have a lot of uruk hai scouts in my force, what would be the best leader i could use so that i can ally them in to the isenguard army.

You don't need one to ally them in. They're altready part of the list.

Mighty.Uruk!!! · **Joined:** Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:58 pm **Posts:** 236

ah ok, i see, cheers people. so that is good, saruman and grima.
possiblyy a ballista
what about a troll, how competetive are they

Draugluin · **Posted:** Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:08 pm

Everytime I've used mine, he performed extremely well. The only time I've not seen an Isengard troll perform well (as in killing more points than he's worth) was when Durin's Bane killed him in one turn of combat.

GothmogtheWerewolf · **Posted:** Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:41 pm

Draugluin wrote:

Everytime I've used mine, he performed extremely well. The only time I've not seen an Isengard troll perform well (as in killing more points than he's worth) was when Durin's Bane killed him in one turn of combat.

AKA THE BALROG OF MORIA!

WayUnderTheMountain · **Posted:** Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:23 pm

Draugluin wrote:

Everytime I've used mine, he performed extremely well. The only time I've not seen an Isengard troll perform well (as in killing more points than he's worth) was when Durin's Bane killed him in one turn of combat.

I hesitate to think of a model that performs well when pitted against so mighty a foe. It's like saying 'That Rohan Royal Guard(w/ throwing spears and horse) wasn't worth his points, he got squashed by a Isengard Troll in the first round of combat'. With that kind of discrepancy in point value, the loss shouldn't be considered in terms of the model's performance.

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