Going through the new source books

imrail · **Joined:** Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:24 pm **Posts:** 666

Evil got the most attention the couple of (years? months?) with mainly evil releases.

Bolt throwers are great weapons.
Never was allowed to use them against my opponents, as well as my trebuchet.
They thought it was to overpowered.

Pindergorn · **Posted:** Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:02 pm

imrail wrote:

Bolt throwers are great weapons.
Never was allowed to use them against my opponents, as well as my trebuchet.
They thought it was to overpowered.

Wait what, so your opponents dictated to you what you could and could not use?? I might think Saruman and his Sorcerous Blast is overpowered, but that doesn't give me the right to not let Dead Marsh Spectre use him. Ultimately, everyone has the right to use any of the Official GW profiles they wish to, including for instance all the new profiles first introduced in White Dwarf like the Gundabad Goblins, Dwarf Shieldbearer and Kings Champion, the Cave Drake and the Ringwraiths.

Any restrictions on use of officially published GW profiles should be through mutual agreement, not some arbitrary pre-condition from your opponent.

Your opponents sound like unpleasant people to play with.

imrail · **Joined:** Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:24 pm **Posts:** 666

King Ondoher wrote:

imrail wrote:

Bolt throwers are great weapons.
Never was allowed to use them against my opponents, as well as my trebuchet.
They thought it was to overpowered.

Wait what, so your opponents dictated to you what you could and could not use??

Any restrictions on use of officially published GW profiles should be through mutual agreement, not some arbitrary pre-condition from your opponent.

Your opponents sound like unpleasant people to play with.

Indeed you are right, but they where the only opponents against who I could play.
I wasn't so picky with who I could play against, especially now when there is no one left to play against.

The Horde Lord · **Joined:** Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:58 pm **Posts:** 301

Bolt Throwers and Treebuchets aren't overpowered at all, sure they can be good, but you do pay points for them, and as long as your opponent rememeber to have a few looners outside their formation, there is only a one in sixth chance that a hit will actually do any real damage.

GothmogtheWerewolf · **Posted:** Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:23 am

The Horde Lord wrote:

Bolt Throwers and Treebuchets aren't overpowered at all.

I would go as far as to say they are underpowered, unless you are very lucky.

Pindergorn · **Posted:** Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:58 am

GothmogtheWerewolf wrote:

The Horde Lord wrote:

Bolt Throwers and Treebuchets aren't overpowered at all.

I would go as far as to say they are underpowered, unless you are very lucky.

Yes they most likely are, but they are a lot of fun to use when used wisely.

imrail · **Joined:** Tue Aug 18, 2009 7:24 pm **Posts:** 666

King Ondoher wrote:

GothmogtheWerewolf wrote:

The Horde Lord wrote:

Bolt Throwers and Treebuchets aren't overpowered at all.

I would go as far as to say they are underpowered, unless you are very lucky.

Yes they most likely are, but they are a lot of fun to use when used wisely.

I had a very beautiful moment when fighting against elves.
I fired my trebuchet in a nice tight block of elves, rolled a six and suddenly there where around the 100 points of elves gone!

Usually I upgrade my bolt thrower so I can roll 2 dices.
I'm wondering, are the siege upgrades still in the new source books?
Or are they changed?

Pindergorn · **Posted:** Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:01 pm

Still the same. Swift Reload is a must have, allows you to roll 2D6 and choose the highest result for the number of shots fired.

GothmogtheWerewolf · **Posted:** Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:52 pm

Swift Reload is a Catapult Troll that can't fight in combat.

The Horde Lord · **Joined:** Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:58 pm **Posts:** 301

GothmogtheWerewolf wrote:

Swift Reload is a Catapult Troll that can't fight in combat.

Nah, only sort of. It lets you roll 2D6 instead of 1 and let you choose the highest. A catapult troll costs 70 points more.

GothmogtheWerewolf · **Posted:** Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:12 pm

A troll costs more because it has other uses, but its cost hampers it, though cheaper than a normal Troll. I thought the Troll did that too, but I never bothere reading the Catapult sectionn properly in Warbands because i would never even consider using the thing.

ChristsSoldier · **Posted:** Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:04 am

The swift reload lets you roll 2 dice and choose the highest for the number of shots.
The catapult troll lets you fire twice instead of once.

Pindergorn · **Posted:** Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:25 pm

GothmogtheWerewolf wrote:

Swift Reload is a Catapult Troll that can't fight in combat.

We're talking about the Avenger Bolt thrower, not the catapult...

GothmogtheWerewolf · **Posted:** Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:33 pm

I knwo, I was just attempting to use the closest available comparison as I play only Evil.

jscottbowman · **Posted:** Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:39 pm

Guys, just wondering if there is any consensus of opinion on the new sbg books? Are people converting to them or sticking with LoME?
Seems a lot of negative feedback about them reading through this post, and I am reluctant to invest in the new books, if they aint worth it...

whafrog · **Posted:** Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:50 am

Fwiw, this thread is old. Personally I had my doubts, but I much prefer the new warband system, and I can't think of a time where I saw an "I prefer LoME" post that was based on practical comparisons. It's not just the warbands either, but the way the new scenarios are structured. Sometimes GW does things right...

jscottbowman · **Posted:** Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:59 am

whafrog wrote:

Fwiw, this thread is old. Personally I had my doubts, but I much prefer the new warband system, and I can't think of a time where I saw an "I prefer LoME" post that was based on practical comparisons. It's not just the warbands either, but the way the new scenarios are structured. Sometimes GW does things right...

Thanks for thre reply, yeah I've been away from the game for quite a while... just couldnt see any more recent discussion.

I'll see if I can get hold of them at a reasonable price... somewhere...somehow... I aint paying NZ prices... rip off!

Cheers
Scott

Wah Wing · **Posted:** Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:02 am

Hate to keep this post alive but this question is related.
Why is there no profile or upgrade in the Fallen Realms book for the Uruk-hai drummer? He's in the command box set so why not have a profile?

Ukfreddybear · **Posted:** Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:37 am

I would assume him to have the same stats as an Uruk Scout, and with the same rule as an Orc Drummer?

whafrog · **Posted:** Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:18 pm

jscottbowman wrote:

Thanks for thre reply, yeah I've been away from the game for quite a while... just couldnt see any more recent discussion.

You should read through this most awesome thread, I'm pretty sure it will answer your questions:
http://www.thelastalliance.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4723

Going through the new source books

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