Just wandering if the folliwing would be feasable and at least have a shot a victory

Moria Beast list

Cave Drake
Wild Wargs
Spiders

(Cave drake leader and 2 packs of 5 wargs with leadersplus a few spiders...dont know exact numbers but just wandering if this could work)

Angmar Spirit List

Shade army leader
Barrow Wights as captains
Amy of only Dead Marsh Spectres

(i would convert them all from warriors of the dead..seems like a nice ghastly list)

would either of these work...if so wich would you reccomend i go for?
ps point limit would be 500 (lets start small)

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Neither list would work, but probably be fun to play with in friendly games. The Cave Drake is an independant hero,

I agree. Also the 'theme' of an all spirit list is dreadful.

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"I am the Flying Spagetti Monster. Thou shall have no other monsters before me"
-FSM.

aaawh...okay, hob about this?


Ashrak
6 goblins + spear
6 goblins + bow
115 pts

Goblin Shaman
6 goblins + spear
6 goblins + bow
105

Goblin Shaman
6 goblins + spear
6 goblins + bow
105

Warg Chieftain
7 wargs
131

2 Giant spiders + venomback upgrade
44

Total 500
(i could drop one warband of goblins for more venomback spiders...or no wargs and spiders but a single cave drake)

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"If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten"

What's up with all the shamans, you only need one.

Ashrak
6 goblins + spear
6 goblins + bow
115 pts

Goblin Shaman
6 goblins + spear
6 goblins + bow
105

Goblin Captain with bow & shield
6 goblins + spear
6 goblins + bow
105

Warg Chieftain
7 wargs
131

2 Giant spiders + venomback upgrade
44

Total 500
(i could drop one warband of goblins for more venomback spiders...or no wargs and spiders but a single cave drake...wich would be more effective?)

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I'd use multiple shamans, so you can use them in multiple contingents and flank your enemies.

The Cave drake should be for larger point battles.
But you will need some punch, a troll or two should do the trick.

Keep in mind that the wargs (in the old rules) didn't get to throw the enemy to the ground when charging.

Wargs still don't count as cavalry, and your army lacks might, which is better obtained from captains or Kings rather than shamans. Remember that if a another hero is within 6" of a shaman he pass his courage test automaticly and can use stand fast.

Woud this be better?

Ashrak
6 goblins + spear
6 goblins + bow
115 pts

Goblin Shaman
6 goblins + spear
6 goblins + bow
105

Gobin captain + bow + shield
1 Gobin + bow + shield
2 Cave Trolls
115

Warg Chieftain
5 wargs
115

2 Giant Spiders
44

Total 500

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"If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten"

Why are you giving your Goblin Captain a bow and shield? One or the other would be better. Honestly, sticking with what you want to do I'd go with something more like this:

Durburz
6 Goblins with shields
6 Goblins with spears
120pts

Goblin Shaman
6 Goblins with shields
6 Goblins with spears
105pts

Goblin Captain with bow
12 Goblins with Orc bows
100pts

Warg Chieftain
5 Wild Wargs
2 Giant Spiders
4 Goblins with shields

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Gondor: 2339pts
Rohan: 1318pts
Dwarves: 2482pts
Elves: 1091pts
Mordor: 2305pts
Isengard: 1762pts
Moria: 1463pts
Evil Men: 381pts

that would mean losing the hard hitters (trolls) besides the 1 pt for a shield makes little difference in the total picture


1000pt list (could get this together without having to buy mutch more models0

Ashrak
6 Gobins with bow
6 Goblins with spear
115pts

Goblin Shaman
6 Goblins with bow
6 Goblins with spear
105pts

Warg Chieftain
5wargs
115pts

Warg Chieftain
5wargs
115pts

Goblin Captain with bow and shield
6 Goblins with shield
6 Goblins with bow
115pts

Buhrdur
2 Cave trolls
270pts

2 Giant spiders + venomback
44

2 Giant spiders + venomback
44

Gundabad Blackshield Shaman
4 Gundabad Blackshields
86 pts

total 999

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"If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten"

Firstly, you need shields, either Goblin Warriors, Prowlers or Blackshields.

Secondly you cannot give a Captain a shield and an Orc bow, even if you could it would be a waste, a shield costs 5pts for a Hero not 1pt, you can literally get another Goblin Warrior for that cost.

Thirdly, you should either use Durburz, Groblog or both.

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"I am the Flying Spagetti Monster. Thou shall have no other monsters before me"
-FSM.

Another try then (miscalcuated the trolls earlier on)

Grôblog
6 goblins + shield
6 goblins + bow
115pts

Goblin Captain + shield
6 goblins + shield
6 goblins + bow
100pts

Goblin Shaman
2 goblin with shield
2 Cave Trolls
215pts

1 Warg Marauder (can these move indipentanly or do they need a captain?)
1 warg Marauder
70pts

Total 500

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"If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten"

Warg Marauders can move independantlym, but in order to ield any you need a hero. All Warrior s need a hero. Since you only have 4 Warriors in Warband 3, put the Marauders in that Warband, then no lead to alter your list.

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"I am the Flying Spagetti Monster. Thou shall have no other monsters before me"
-FSM.

so they'd basicly be part of warband 3 but able to move independantly of said warband?

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"If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten"

All models can move independantly of their Warband, modles in a Warband do not have to stay grouped together.

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"I am the Flying Spagetti Monster. Thou shall have no other monsters before me"
-FSM.

with some converting of wild wargs and goblins into warg marauders i will have enough miniatures for a 1000pt list
500pt list
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Grôblog
6 goblins + shield
6 goblins + bow
115pts

Goblin Captain + shield
6 goblins + shield
6 goblins + bow
100pts

Goblin Shaman
2 goblin with shield
2 Cave Trolls
215pts

2 Warg Marauders
70pts

Total: 500pts
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500pts list to uprgrade to 1000pts
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Durbûrz
6 goblins with shield
6 goblins with bow
120

Asrák
6 goblins with shield
6 goblins with bow
115

Warg Chieftain
5 Wild Wargs
115

Warg Chieftain
5 Wild Wargs
1 Warg Marauder
150

Total: 500pts
grand Total: 1000pts exactly

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"If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten"

ah...see this is what happens when you dont have a rulebook

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You cannot write the cost of one Warg Marauder. It il ilegal to post the pts of an individual model.

Also could you write the model count, break point, total might points and number of bows please. As long as you put the marauders in a Warband, it looks you could have a good list.

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"I am the Flying Spagetti Monster. Thou shall have no other monsters before me"
-FSM.

oooops here goes, this should be it


500pt list
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Grôblog
6 goblins with shield
4 goblins with bow
2 goblins with spear
115pts

Goblin Captain with shield
6 goblins with shield
4 goblins with bow
2 goblins with spear
100pts

Goblin Shaman
2 goblin with shield
2 Cave Trolls
2 Warg Marauders
285pts



total: 500pts
6 might
12 bows
45 figures

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500pts list to uprgrade to 1000pts
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Durbûrz
6 goblins with shield
4 goblins with bow
2 goblins with spear
120

Asrák
6 goblins with shield
4 goblins with bow
2 goblins with spear
115

Warg Chieftain
5 Wild Wargs
115

Warg Chieftain
5 Wild Wargs
1 Warg Marauder
150

Total: 500pts
6might
10 bows
37 figures
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grand Total: 1000pts exactly
12 might
22 bows
82 figures

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"If you can't beat them, arrange to have them beaten"