Aye, but 1. I was not advacating all allies need be undercosted, that statement referred mostly to WoMT.

and 2. KoMT are the Good equivelent of Morgul Knights making them pretty decent, so long as you don't bother with shields, and Faramir is the Good equivelent of Durburz, as he is also a 4 Might ES Hero that is too cheap. THough WoMT being Morannon Orcs are better of course.

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"I am the Flying Spagetti Monster. Thou shall have no other monsters before me"
-FSM.

I hadn't realised KOMT and Faramir were so undercosted, I don't have the models for either of them so was speaking hypothetical when I talked about taking them. I'm kind of glad Faramir is overcosted he was always the better son in both the books and in the film and never really got the recognition he deserved in either the book or in GW games

I hope you mean the film, not the book?

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"... Telchar wrought it in the deeps of time."
-On Andùril, The Lord of the Rings

They aren't massively undercosted, Faramir may be worth about 120pts, but there are much worse heroes eg Gothmog, about 175pts IMO. And the Knights are roughly correct if you follow an assumed baseline, both they and Morgul Knights sit in there 'good deal, worth their pts but not overpowered (contrary o the opinons of some)' camp.

And Telchar is right about book/film Faramir, they are rather different people.

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"I am the Flying Spagetti Monster. Thou shall have no other monsters before me"
-FSM.

On Faramir, yes, the book and movies are very, very different- "How shall I deal with the Ring," anyone?

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"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach.”

I did mean film, stupid me wasn't really paying attention

Don't worry.

I really have to restrain myself from a rant about how they demolished Faramir in the movie.

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"... Telchar wrought it in the deeps of time."
-On Andùril, The Lord of the Rings

Normally, I am like that, but for some reason I don't mind the weirdly change film Faramir. Don't ask.

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"I am the Flying Spagetti Monster. Thou shall have no other monsters before me"
-FSM.

actually in the extended edition of the film he comes across much better, apparently they changed his character in the the film so he would be an obstacle to Frodo and Sam which would and some suspense to the story and in Peter Jacksons words allow Faramir 'to go on a journey' which helps people who have never read the books to connect with him easier. for some reason people connect with slightly flawed people (taking the ring to Gondor rather than letting them go straight away) than perfectly people, I think it was a nice touch giving him Sams lines about the Harad solider though