Throne of Skulls 1000pts Lists - With a POLL

KhazadAi-menu · **Posted:** Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:19 pm

Hi there, it's been a while since I've posted on here, but as you are all my number one resource for Gaming I humbly ask your guidance once more.

Hopefully (If my budget allows - by that I mean partner) I will be heading to Throne of Skulls in February for the LOTR 2-day event. 1000pts is required, and I have a few potential lists that I have been toying with. I'm going to have a few games with them over the next few weeks to try and tweak them, but I was hoping some of you could help me out with advice on how to improve them. I have 4 lists so far. A Dwarf list, a Moria list, an Isengard list and an Easterling list.

Dwarves: Total 998pts

Warband 1: Total - 290
Dain Ironfoot
1x Horn
1x Banner
3x Warrior + Shield
7x Khazad Guard

Warband 2: Total - 265
Balin
12x Iron Guard

Warband 3: Total - 233
King's Champion
10x Warrior + Shield

Warband 4: Total - 210
Shieldbearer
Dwarf Ballista
10x Warrior + Bow

Points to note - I really wanted to take Gandalf in there just so I have some magical support, and in the past he has been really effective against big hitters such as Sauron, but I can't figure what to remove to fit him in. Also I wouldn’t mind putting Floi in as his ability to negate others special abilities is pretty cool, and I believe he gets back a point of Will when a multi-wound models is killed.

Isengard: Total - 1001pts

Warband 1: Total - 314
Saruman
Uruk Hai Warrior + Banner
11x Warrior + Shield

Warband 2: Total - 192
Vrasku
12x Warrior + Crossbow

Warband 3: Total - 180
Mauhur
12x Scouts + Shield + Marauder Upgrade

Warband 4: Total - 290
Shaman + Armour
Troll
6x Berserkers
4x Warrior + Shield

Grima Wormtongue - 25

Moria: Total - 1001pts

Warband 1: Total - 115
Groblog
12x Goblins + Shield

Warband 2: Total - 105
Shaman
12x Goblins + Spear

Warband 3: Total - 250
Watcher in the Water

Warband 4: Total - 331
Shaman
Dweller in the Dark
Troll + Spear
6x Goblins + Shield
Goblin Drum

Warband 5: Total - 200
Gulavhar

Points to note - I have used Groblog before, and his ability to drop the Fury save to 5+ is invaluable. I once tied up a flank of Army of the Dead worth 600pts with just 200pts of Goblins because they simply wouldn’t die. I have never fielded Gulavhar before, and I don’t yet have the model, but I do love the model and would love to paint him up.

Easterlings: Total - 919

Warband 1: Total - 224
Amdur (mounted)
6x Kataphracts (+1x banner)

Warband 2: Total - 244
Khamul
7x Easterlings + Shield
4x Easterlings + Shield + Pike
1x Easterling + Banner

Warband 3: Total - 156
War Priest
8x Easterlings + Bow
4x Easterlings + Shield

Independents:

1x Dragon Knight (foot) - 70
1x Dragon Knight (Mounted) - 85

Allies

Troll Chieftain

Points to note - I have chosen the troll chieftain as it gives me yet more Might to play with. The dragon knights and the War Priest make a potent combination with his blade wrath spell. I'm a bit short points wise on this list, but I'm having a complete brain blank as to what to add.

Any input would be very much appreciated.

Regards,

Adam.

Shieldmaiden · **Posted:** Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:39 pm

First off, I'd say that if you were going to the GT with the hopes of being competitive, you really need to take a Wizard - and you also should take Floi with your Dwarves.

I can't really advise about your Goblins/Isengard, but with the Easterlings I'd drop Khamul and the Dragon Knight and instead take another War Priest - and I'd team them up with Mordor, specifically the Undying.

A list I find works well is as follows:

Warband 1 12/12
The Undying with Horse;
6 Morannon Orc with Shield; Spear;
6 Black Númenórean
----
Warband 2 12/12
Kardûsh the Firecaller
6 Morannon Orc with Shield; Spear;
6 Morannon Orc with Spear;
----
Warband 1 12/12
Amdûr, Lord of Blades
6 Black Dragon Warrior with Shield; Pike;
6 Black Dragon Warrior with Shield;
----
Warband 2 12/12
Easterling War Priest
6 Black Dragon Warrior with Shield; Pike;
6 Black Dragon Warrior with Shield;
----
Warband 3 8/12
Easterling Captain with armoured horse;
8 Black Dragon Kataphrakt
----
61 Units, 1000pts exactly. You have numbers but also F4 Black Dragons/Black Numenoreans, S4 Morannon Orcs, and the terror of the Undying/Numenoreans. You have a powerhouse spellcaster that can be fuelled by Khardush/War Priest spells, you have Kardush able to recharge by sacrificing orcs, and you have Amdur and some cavalry for punch. I might take Knights of Umbar of Kataphrakts, but this is slightly cheaper money wise.

John Wayne · **Posted:** Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:30 pm

You could drop the banner in Amdur's warband as Easterlings treat him as a banner. Suggest you put some strength 4 or higher as an allied warband as Shieldmaiden sais.

John Wayne · **Posted:** Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:47 pm

My Gondor 1000pts

war 1:
Boromir - captain of white tower
07 osgiliath vets
04 fountain guard
01 womt with banner

war 2:
Faramir
12 rangers

war 3:
Cirion
10 womt with banner
02 fountain guard

war 4:
Knight of the white tower
12 womt with banner

war 5:
captain
05 komt

15M, 50 models, 999pts

Alot of the womt have spears and shields btw.

Mordor

war 1:
Witch king
troll drummer
02 mordor uruks
09 morannon orcs with banner

war 2:
captain
05 trakers
05 orcs
01 great beast of gorgoroth

war 3:
black guard captain
04 black guard
08 orcs with banner

war 4:
Gorbag
09 orcs with banner
02 stalkers
01 mordor uruk

10M, 47 models 1000pts

Spears all over the place but didnt write up the wargear

Eruntalon · **Posted:** Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:51 am

Floi is a badass wizard if played right. He costs only 70-80 points and you can negate one enemy ability of your choice per turn. Choosing the right ability will be crucial for the fight. Also having and army of dwarves is pretty thick. They die very hard but they lack movement. So care not to be kited to death.
Also floi can have more will that his starting pool if you kill a lot of multiwould enemies. Against large armies like that, almost every warband will have at least one multiwound mini so you will be very hard to stop if you protect your wizard properly.

You might want to put some dwarf rangers instead of warriors to the ballista warband. They have better shoot values, str3 bows and this will give you a pretty strong ranged force.Killing as much of the enemy as possible before getting to melee combat will give you the upper hand since your dwarves are one of the best armies when it comes to melee fights(great fight values, strength and defence stats).

Do you know the map where you gonna play? If it has nice narrow passages then maybe 1-2 vault warden teams might be what you need to secure this fight.

SouthernDunedain · **Posted:** Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:43 am

Floi cannot go above 3 will, 99% sure it says that in his profile. Also dwarf rangers have str 2 bows with a 24" range rather than the warriors who have shortbows with 18" range and str 3.

The scenarios are randomly generated before each game by the TO

Constantine · **Posted:** Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:29 am

Quote:

You might want to put some dwarf rangers instead of warriors to the ballista warband. They have better shoot values, str3 bows and this will give you a pretty strong ranged force

Dwarf rangers have S2 bows, in my opinion under the warband rules they have become less useful and I'd rather take Dwarf warriors with short-bows.

Quote:

Floi cannot go above 3 will, 99% sure it says that in his profile.

Floi can gain an infinite amount of will, it is clearly stated in his profile. He is great but be careful in case the enemy has a Nazgul, Drain Will would render Floi useless.

I'd also reconsider taking a Dwarf Ballista. Maybe add another banner and some more units.

KhazadAi-menu · **Posted:** Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:49 am

Thanks everyone!

One of the things I was considering was taking the ballista and shieldbearer, and possibly Dain so that I could add in Gandalf and Floi. But I don't think Gandalf can lead a Warband of Dwarves under the new rules?

Would I be stupid getting rid of Dain?

Plus, I am so excited for the Hobbit next month, hopefully we should see a lot of new Dwarves, and hopefully new poses.

SouthernDunedain · **Posted:** Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:19 am

KhazadAi-menu wrote:

Thanks everyone!

One of the things I was considering was taking the ballista and shieldbearer, and possibly Dain so that I could add in Gandalf and Floi. But I don't think Gandalf can lead a Warband of Dwarves under the new rules?

Would I be stupid getting rid of Dain?

Plus, I am so excited for the Hobbit next month, hopefully we should see a lot of new Dwarves, and hopefully new poses.

you are correct, gandalf cannot lead dwarves (unless they change it in the hobbit rules) but for now - no. If I may offer a suggestion, I would replace dain with durin. If you have looked at his profile, he is a beast. he is well worth his pts imo. I would try and put durin and floi into your dwarf list.

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