Effectiviness of a Men Army (750pts)

ManHell · **Posted:** Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:56 pm

Hi every body!
I haven't try this army, for that matter I haven't try any army in a real tournament, and I wanted some opinion in his effectiviness.

This is the list...

Minas
1-King of Men W/shield and heavy armor
-Warrior of Minas Tirith with Banner
-6Warrior of Minas Tirith W/ spear and shields
-4Guard of the Fountain Court W/shields
-1Guard of the Fountain Court

2-Beregond
-4Warrior of Minas Tirith W/shields
-5Citadel Guard W/bows

3-Damrod, Ranger of Ithilien
-4Ranger of Gondor

the Fiefdoms
4-Prince Imrahil of Dol Amroth W/ armourd horse and lance
-4Knight of Dol Amroth W/ armourd horse and lance

the White Council
5-Radagast the Brown

Thanks for responding

Lord Hurin · **Posted:** Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:18 pm

Just a few points:

-First, 34 units is far too small for a 750pt army.
-Second, you don't have any equipment listed for the King or for Imrahil
-Third, you're over the bow limit by 1 (16 warriors from the Minas Tirith list and 9 bows)

I'd drop one Warband and try to fill the other ones. A Wizard is a big point sink, so you need to have a reason to play him. Gandalf the Grey is more themed and straight better, although he costs more points.

SMORG · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:40 am

I count 11 bow armed in an army of 34, so I think your ok, iirc bow armed is for the whole list including allies.

I agree with Lord Hurin that radagast can be a huge points sink, think of how many more knights you could get for that. If your using him to try and dismount riders thats ok, but not as effective as you'd think. Taking people like Imrahil off a horse is a big boost (no more lance, can't keep up) but most characters will just loose a smidge of mobility and, at tourney's especially, will not be that far out of place anyway.

Overall though I can see what you're trying to do. I think your model count is ok, I normally field about 20 in 750 pts so you'll be fine for numbers. the thing to remember is that spears are good supporting but their fight doesn't count, so its probably better to give all your GotFC shields instead of your WoMT.

Also, use firing from the second rank to your favor. Rangers can take spears so you could use them to support the guard and still get their shots right up close.

Lord Hurin · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:02 am

The bow limit is per faction, so Minas Tirith and The Fiefdoms would be separate.

I must say I love your sig, SMORG.

SMORG · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:31 am

Fair enough, do hero's still count?

Draugluin · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:03 am

25/3=8.33333333 which rounds up to 9, so you can have 16 non bows with 9 bows.

SouthernDunedain · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2012 7:07 am

SMORG wrote:

Fair enough, do hero's still count?

No heroes do not count towards bow limit. Also, shouldn't this be in the army help section?

Lord Hurin · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2012 12:23 pm

Draugluin wrote:

25/3=8.33333333 which rounds up to 9, so you can have 16 non bows with 9 bows.

Oh right, I forgot they were calculating it differently now. :roll:

ManHell · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:19 pm

first of all: thanks for the tips Lord Hurin and SMORG.

I have made a mistake, my Prince Imrahil of Dol Amroth has a horse and lance.

The reason that I've puted the Wizard is because I'm afraid the other army has lots of monsters... and an immobilise can make the diference, and I'm not even mentioning the other powers.

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