Dwarves as allies for elves?

LordElrond · **Posted:** Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:36 pm

Hi everyone,

I was wondering whether you think that the dwarves would make good allies for my elves, even though they are expensive.
Maybe I should include a few heroes to boost the defence of the front line?
Thoughts?

LordElrond

Thecow · **Posted:** Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:42 pm

Dwarves are usefull in elven armies that have weak armor.
Heres a good list to ally with your elves and boost the defense of your front line.

Gimli
12 dwarf warriors with shields.
Dwarf shieldbearer
2 dwarf vault warden team

LordElrond · **Posted:** Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:51 pm

Thanks, but I am thinking o an army mainly made up if high elves, but with a few wood and galadhrim elves as well.
Sometimes, my front line of swordsmen seems to crumble easily under heavy fire from Uruk crossbows
I was thinking maybe some heroes?
Gimli, Gloin, Kings Champion?
Shieldbearers sound like a great choice

Thecow · **Posted:** Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:06 am

Against uruk crossbows you dont need the warden team but more dwarves, then give all your wood elves a bow and elven cloak and the galahadrim need spears to support the dwarves.The high elves should be defending the sides and back against cavalry.
Also, if you're really in trouble with uruk crossbows get galahadrim cavalry, they are really a pain in the butt for uruks but dont let them close to berserkers or powerfull isengard heroes.Kings champions im not sure about, they're usefull but can be a waste of points if your opponent manages to stop their advance somehow.
The heroes are purelly your own choice. (dont let any of them get close to trolls though or you will get hero mush)

LordElrond · **Posted:** Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:15 am

Thanks for the advice

I'll keep that in mind when making up my mind what I need to add to my army and what I need to buy

Beowulf03809 · **Posted:** Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:29 pm

Be cautious about the use of Elf Cloaks. They can cut quickly into your numbers. In my Wood Elf armies I usually don't get extra Elf Cloaks beyond those that come with certain models except perhaps to add one to Legolas. I have occasionally made some specialist teams with cloaks for objective rushing or such but usually find I'd prefer the extra models on the board in the long run.

LordElrond · **Posted:** Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:18 pm

Thank you for your wise words, Beowulf. It is only worth buying elven cloaks for powerful heroes that will keep their distance from enemy models (ie Legolas and Haldir)

Is this what you meant?

If so, I completely agree with what you said.

Beowulf03809 · **Posted:** Mon Dec 17, 2012 9:10 pm

I hate blanket rules. :-)

Too many exceptions. But generally speaking I would only add an Elf Cloak to a significantly important Hero, and then only if the points are available without sacrificing something more useful.

There are ALWAYS exceptions. A friend challenged me to a Contest of Champions scenario once and was convinced his Uruk Hai crossbows were going to shred my "soft" Wood Elves. So I showed up with Legolas in Elf Cloak, Radagast, a Sentinel and the rest of the (very few) points sunk into WEs with Cloaks. Practically eliminated his crossbow threat and forced him to close to melee. Though I had much fewer models Legolas was able to easily get more kills before his Uruks broke me (rather quick at close range due to far to few WEs to fight effectively). Cheezy, but it was a match were I 'just had to do it' and was taken in good humor.

That's an extreme example, but you get it. Cloaks on regular troops are only viable if you have a specific plan for those troops that requires the cloaks rather than extra troops.

Dwarves as allies for elves?

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