Thror model size and review

Fin · **Posted:** Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:24 am

SidTheSloth wrote:

Some of the new ones could pass for humans in a different scale...

Actually, that is what they are... I guess that GW had some of Weta's CGI at hand when they sculpted for the Hobbit. The old dwarves were sculpted mainly from scratch and were not based on living actors.
In all those Dwarf-only scenes in the Hobbit Weta didn't have to rescale them to fit to the human characters... This is perhaps where the scale-creep comes from. Especially the proportions of the heads seem to be a good indicator for that. They wanted to have the dwarves look as much alike the actors as possible.

In fact, I don't mind the scale creep too much... If you mix metal, finecast, old and new plastics you should get some variety in scale that is not only acceptable, but quite natural as well.
Especially if you do some kitbashing and mix old and new plastics, this should work.

Leoneth · **Posted:** Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:30 pm

I just picked mine up from my LGW! Gonna put him together now!

Leoneth · **Posted:** Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:47 pm

Double post! :shock:

few thoughts.

I agree with the sword been really thin, a bit bent, but scared of moving it too much in case it snaps, other than that it looks great. Must say though, i really don't like the way he holds the shield, so I'm sticking it to his back

Natarn · **Posted:** Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:25 pm

SidTheSloth wrote:

I prefer the old dwarves... in my opinion they looked alot more 'dwarvish'. Some of the new ones could pass for humans in a different scale...

I'm with you there, Sid.

That new model looks like a man, not a dwarf! What's going on?!

I suggest the scale difference might be so that you feel compelled to buy a whole new dwarf army... GW$£!

SidTheSloth · **Posted:** Thu Mar 07, 2013 3:58 pm

Aye. GW seem to have confused scale with stature.... 2 very different things

FallenMairon · **Joined:** Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:39 pm **Posts:** 11

The problem here is that the older dwarves were a lot stockier than the newer ones. Human sized heads, limbs, everything really except the length of their arms, legs and bodies. The newer approach however seems to be that dwarves are just all around smaller, much like hobbits are.

Bilbo · **Posted:** Thu Mar 07, 2013 8:15 pm

NetrixX wrote:

I took the liberty of making a quick shot. Here's a comparison with the old metal ones;

They look quite out of proportion next to Thror, especially on the head front. Also they're as you can see smaller, and wider.

I must say, glorious bit of painting there!

Galanur · **Joined:** Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:28 am **Posts:** 1389

I got my thror model yesterday and plz check something cause mine got a problem, does your model is missing the handler of the sword? I mean the one at his hand? there should be a small decoration of the end of the handler and mine is missing :/

Draugluin · **Posted:** Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:17 am

The only difference a dwarf "should" have in proportions to a human, IMO, is that they should have broader shoulders and beefier hands. They should have basically the same proportions as a short human, just a really muscular short human.

Sticky Fingersss · **Joined:** Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:20 am **Posts:** 1776

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Actually, that is what they are... I guess that GW had some of Weta's CGI at hand when they sculpted for the Hobbit. The old dwarves were sculpted mainly from scratch and were not based on living actors.
In all those Dwarf-only scenes in the Hobbit Weta didn't have to rescale them to fit to the human characters... This is perhaps where the scale-creep comes from. Especially the proportions of the heads seem to be a good indicator for that. They wanted to have the dwarves look as much alike the actors as possible.

In fact, I don't mind the scale creep too much... If you mix metal, finecast, old and new plastics you should get some variety in scale that is not only acceptable, but quite natural as well.
Especially if you do some kitbashing and mix old and new plastics, this should work.

Agreed, dwarves are just shorter humans just like hobbits. Its just the older dwarves (the more experienced and the ones we are most familiar too) just get fatter. I think people tend to forget that they are young thin dwarves as well as dwarf women.

NetrixX · **Posted:** Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:18 am

Galanur wrote:

I got my thror model yesterday and plz check something cause mine got a problem, does your model is missing the handler of the sword? I mean the one at his hand? there should be a small decoration of the end of the handler and mine is missing :/

My swordhilt is a little shorter on the left side, and the bottom felt not to be complete, however it's not noticeable. They only thing that really bothers me is the fact my sword is still a little bent

Leoneth · **Posted:** Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:23 am

NetrixX wrote:

Galanur wrote:

I got my thror model yesterday and plz check something cause mine got a problem, does your model is missing the handler of the sword? I mean the one at his hand? there should be a small decoration of the end of the handler and mine is missing :/

My swordhilt is a little shorter on the left side, and the bottom felt not to be complete, however it's not noticeable. They only thing that really bothers me is the fact my sword is still a little bent

As is mine, but only noticeable up close, so I suppose it will be fine

Thermo · **Posted:** Fri Mar 08, 2013 2:23 pm

NetrixX wrote:

I took the liberty of making a quick shot. Here's a comparison with the old metal ones;

They look quite out of proportion next to Thror, especially on the head front. Also they're as you can see smaller, and wider.

Your Thor is beautiful, bravo my friend!

greendragon · **Posted:** Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:09 pm

I agree, fantastic work there my friend.

NetrixX · **Posted:** Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:42 pm

Thanks guys ^^

Gene Parmesan · **Posted:** Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:33 pm

NetrixX wrote:

I took the liberty of making a quick shot. Here's a comparison with the old metal ones;

They look quite out of proportion next to Thror, especially on the head front. Also they're as you can see smaller, and wider.

Great job

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