May the direction of the Hurl Brutal Power Attack be measured from the forward edge of the monster's base so that the hurled model travels to either the left or right along the skirmish line?

You can measure hurl any direction provided you are moving away from the one doing the hurling.

Thank you for the clarification. A monster can wreak havoc with that rule!

What's even more fun is to "play catch" by having a monster hurl the model into another monster, who then hurls the model again. Its highly useful for moving models like Imrahil away from their troops to remove his important buff

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I thought you measure from the edge of the base on the side that coordinates with where the miniature is going not where he originated from.

Yes. As long as you are moving away from the monster.

Wait, wouldn't that allow imrahil to participate in the second fight? A monster can't just "auto" hurl you because he was tossed from one troll to another.

He would also have to be in base contact, which can not happen with a hurl. Arriving in base contact can only happen in the move phase. Unless one is part of a heroic fight of course, that is however, not applicable to a hurled model.

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I disagree with jdizzy001 abouth hurling away from the monster. You can even hurl the nominated model trough the monster. Wich will not cause a str 3 hit on the monster it self but will cause an additional str3 to the nominated model. The movement it self is measured as if the nominated model moved in a straight line.

This is not entirely correct, you may only "Charge" during the move phase, but a model can certainly be in base contact with another as a result of a hurl.



Imrahil would participate, I wasn't trying to imply that he wouldn't only that multiple hurls could move him out of range for his banner effect.

Now with RAW there's only 1 way for multiple hurls to possibly work. In the fight section it states that models may only fight if one of them charged. So for example lets say Immy is fighting a Mordor Troll, the troll wins and opts to hurl. He successfully throws Immy into a friendly mordor troll already in combat, as the MT is St6 or greater Immy is placed in contact with him, prone on the ground (and all models that are in base contact must fight pg 38). Next the second mordor troll's fight is resolved, now the only way for Immy to be thrown again is if the MT was the model that charged into combat as otherwise the condition of either Immy or the MT having had to charge this turn is not met.

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p. 38 two models are allowed to be in basecontact if one charged the other.
So as stated in the hurl rule you would move the second troll a bit so that they are not in basecontact.

That's not correct. You're correct as to charging but incorrect on what hurl says. The rule states exactly "Move any models underneath the nominated model's final position by the minimum distance that allows the nominated model to be placed Prone on the board." No where does it say 'create separation' only 'allow the model to be lain down. Now as we already know prone models can be involved in combat (pg 40) and charging is not the only way for models to end up in contact, the Watcher can make a shooting attack and if the hit model isnt slain may be placed in base-contact with the watcher and involved in the fight.

This is like Legolas shooting a mount with RAW Leggy (prior to a recent FAQ/Eratta ruling) couldn't pick the rider or mount he had to roll. With RAW this is the same thing, its DOable but it requires very specific circumstances to allow it. The second monster must have been the chargER and the hurled model has to make it far enough to hit that monster or else they're not in contact

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I did not want to imply that the hurl rule says, that they do not end up being in basecontact, sorry for my bad english.
But in the german rulebook it is very clear on p.38 that models are only allowed to be in basecontact, if one of them charged THE OTHERONE (not only charged) isn't it the same in the English book?
The watcher is an exception, because it is explicit in its profile.
It is! As said it's very clear on page 38. So a hurled model will not take part in a second combat, because it is not allowed to get into basecontact with an enemy and this is where the rule about moving models at the end position comes into play. Because they are not allowed to be in basecontact, you move them the shortest distance to avoid being in basecontact.

Well this explains a lot. In the English it doesn't say they must have charged each other, only that one model in the combat must have charged and the section for hurl says nothing about them not being in contact only that enough room must be made to lay the model on the table

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So this is the one time I'm happy they made a mistranslation
So RAW I yet have not find something to disprove it the way you read it, but in my opinion the rulebook makes clear a model is not allowed to fight twice in one combat phase (heroic combat and barge are exception where is clearly stated that this is an exception).
By the way, do you think this is allowed, too:

Mordor Troll A charges paralyzed Aragorn, Mordor Troll B charged a Warrior of Minas Thirit and they are less than 4" between Aragorn and B.

while(not Aragorn isDead and not A isDead and not B isDead ){
A hurls Aragorn into B, so they are in basecontact and models in basecontact must fight. B hurls him back into A so they are in basecontact.
}

They would be in base contact but I'd say with how the rules in English are written Troll A could do nothing further only because no one had charged in the second time Aragorn came into base contact. Troll B was in a combat where someone had charged, which fulfills the requirements allowing the second hurl

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But troll A had charged and with RAW this is the condition and not that he has to charge someone and still be in combat with it, isn't it?
I don't really see a striking difference between he has charged someone he is still in basecontact with and because of this another model is hurled into basecontact with him and he has charged someone he isn't in basecontact anymore and because of this another model is hurled into basecontact with him.

The only difference I would say is once he threw Aragorn he's no longer in contact with anyone he's charged. So when Aragorn is thrown back into him they've come into base contact without any charge being present to fulfill the combat requirement. I don't know if that makes sense

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But why is being in basecontact with someone you charged important? Or rather is there a charge present when Aragorn is hurled into B?

With how the English rulebook words it there must be at least one model that charged for it to become a combat. So Aragorn being thrown the first time causes him to be thrown into a situation where all requirements are met.

Troll B charged or was charged, so that plus it's being in base contact with the Gondorian fulfills all the requirements for a combat to take place, Aragorn being hurled into it just adds another model being in base contact, it doesn't bring with it any other conditions to allow for a combat to take place. So if Troll B wasn't already in combat and Aragorn was hurled into him nothing would happen as there's not both the charge plus base contact

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