Much like Creaky this has done wonders to allay my fears and relax me. Knowing there's a full lake town faction and some new orcs coming has finally dispelled those niggling doubts I had!
Coenus Scaldingus wrote:
Necromancer itself may only be shown in the third movie in full, if they don't show the entire siege of Dol Guldur and aftermath yet?
Harfoot wrote:
My guess is PJ will keep the Necromancer back for the third film, and build slightly in DOS. So i don't think we will see much Necromancer action from GW until next year
Obviously we don't know for sure yet but I'm pretty sure the Dol Guldur section is going to be split over the two films in some way. Although bear in mind Lego have released their Necromancer figure so I feel pretty sure we're going to be seeing him in some form in DOS.
RefluentMonk wrote:
Smaug and Necromancer will most likely be the last release before the summer ( classic time when GW stop releasing new models for Hobbit ). I think we will get profiles and rules from a little slip sheet like we did for Warriors of Dale. They may even not release it until the third film
This makes the most sense to me, the big bads of the first three films (Sauron, Fell Beast, Mumakil) were all released in the summer after the film with rules to accompany them as GW didn't know their finished forms in advance. I reckon the same is happening here, having seen Kev's list of releases they're bound to be releasing these models but they'll do them as independent entries with rule sheets in the box/WD/digital download in a few months time. I'm fine with this, neither of them are particularly high on my wants list, I basically wanted all the elves, Beorn, the spiders, Gundabad orcs and Laketowners, looks like this supplement is EXACTLY what I was hoping for!
RefluentMonk wrote:
which is well a bit odd considering Smaug dies in the second film does he not?
Pretty sure he doesn't die in this one, supposedly the film ends with some sort of confrontation between the dwarves and Smaug. Besides, the film's about 2 hours 40mins, I'm guessing we don't even meet Smaug until the 2 hour mark (there's a LOT to get through before then) and it'd be a bit of an anticlimax if the major villain dies within 40 mins. They're bound to kep him over as a presence for the first act in film 3. I reckon the dwarves rouse him to anger with the confrontation at the climax and then he flies off to Laketown to exact revenge. As I've said before, I think this will mean the film ends with the dwarves driving Smaug out of the mountain and 'reclaiming' their homeland in a far more heroic way than in the books.
Loving all the tidbits form Kevin about the new rules, not quite clear on the Master yet but I'd guess his rule is a disadvantage as he's a corrupt politician. So he picks one hero on the enemy side and if that hero touches him he's removed, something similar to that. I've got to say so many of these rules sound soooo cool and fluffy, it's one of the things I love about SBG, rules that make narrative sense, not just rules for rules sake.
Also, Mirkwood Rangers have two daggers? Are we getting elves with two attacks?!?! All wearing elven cloaks?!?!? Presumably hitting on 2+?!?!?! With a 100% bow limit?!?!?! Methinks they're gonna be shooting up the meta!
Thanks so much for all the info Kevin, it's much appreciated!
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