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Alright guys theres a lot of crazy convo going on in this topic. Wan Shi Tongs first post was dead on. Anyways....
I was at Nova and let me throw my hat in the ring....
The top lists you can almost already see by vlogs and by such.
We already know there was a Knights of Rivendell with Gandalf and Legolas. We already know just as last year there was an Isengard list with all elites and x bows. In addition, there is always the same lists with wood elves including things like Galadriels, Rumils, Thranduils, Legolas's etc. There are always fell beast armies. I know there was another knights of rivendell and high elves, a Mordor spam I believe, and Arnor with Boromir and Twins. These are what I remember being top 10 minus a few I DONT remember.
Another list....let me make a huge point here because I could believe this was the hardest to use, you can see on the OSBGL(did I get that right?) vlog. I give many props and this is the only guy I will name directly because he put it in his vlog so obviously. Thats Adam from Canada and his list was something like Gwahir, Eagles, Radagast with sleigh, and Galadriel.
Thats MOST of what I know from the event. But Adams army to me shows my point, in my opinion.....
That is a VERY tough army to place with having maybe 6 units or something like that, yet he still got 4th I believe, and with a couple of dice rolls probably could have placed higher.
The point is guys, its fun to know these armies, but its the player knowing how to play them that wins games.
The top three guys came with nearly identical armies to last year and with different scenarios still whooped people. Its knowing the game, and knowing your army, not list.
I placed 14th because of some insane dice rolls in a game and some army matchups. I could have made it further up possibly but I ended the last game super fast because I had some personal business to attend to.
Regardless, I brought a tough list and I hadnt played it before(hadnt played this exact combo).
So a couple things to say. #1-Ill type up my army list(just to get another idea of something you might play.
#2-Cheers to all the guys in the top ten. Good showing.
#3-I have a final note to talk about.
Mine:
(leader) Undying on fell beast
Witch king on horse 3/14/2
Taskmaster
Shaman on Warg
34 morannons I think 50/50 hand weapon spear. ALL with shield
5 warg riders with shield
spider
Fell warg
Something like that.
I had two major victories, one solid 5-0(weapon of the enemy I had to end early for a phone call), and two minor defeats.
If anyone would like detail on the armies I played, how the games went, etc, please feel free to pm me. I wont type that much here.
So to sum it up, heres basically what I believe is a must or a very good idea at Nova to win games. I mention this because it seems this is what people are after with list questions. These are in kinda of order, but after the first one, it doesnt matter much:
1-Magic magic magic. If you want to win, Id say 99% you need to bring magic. Of the top ten lists, I only know 8 armies. And guess what....8 of them have 1 magician minimum, and a couple have two.
2-Strong heroes. If youre spamming out heroes, most of the time, your army may be hard to defeat but youre not killing everyone else either. Tough heroes are the way to go.
3-Mobility. Not the most essential, but a lot of times if you dont have at least some cavalry its tougher. I believe a couple top ten armies had little mobility but they make up for it with other tricks.
The rest of these are all good, but not mandatory.
4-Elite troops. Just like with heroes, if you spam nobodies, they will probably show you small amounts of things. So you can use run of the mill warriors, but putting in some elite troops minimum is a good bet.
This last one seems like the logic doesnt match but:
5- EITHER killing power or high fight value
Youre either wounding, or constantly winning fights. I wouldnt suggest basic orcs for example or dwarves from Durins folk. Elves are everywhere and so are other elites.
Honorable mention:
Monsters-They seemed tougher last year than this year, but it really depends who uses them. The top 3 lists had none.
Obviously guys thats all my opinion and I didnt quite crack the top ten, so take my words any way you wish. Im honestly a better coach at this than a player.
When it comes down to it though, absolutely need magic, good heroes, and mobility.
That being said, I saw people with similar armies to top 5 guys and they did worse than me.
Its all in matchups, how you play, the board, the scenario, the PLAYER.
I faced one army that I should have crushed and didnt. I faced one that matched up amazingly against me, and I got a major victory. On one board, the terrain cost both my opponent and I vps because of choke points etc.
Any more questions, shoot.
I had a blast a nova anyway and next year I hope to crack the top ten.
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