I completely agree. Moria hordes should have at least various shades of green, if not gray and black. I remember a lot of the Moria orcs in the movies as having gray skin.
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| Author: | King Elessar the Uniter [ Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:15 pm ] |
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Why is it that the majority of us gamers paint Goblins with green skin and Orcs with a mixture of skin colours? Why is this the usual way to paint the two races? Does it have foundations in the books/films or just that GW paint their Orcs with green skin? |
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| Author: | The_Dragon_of_Moria [ Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:31 pm ] |
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Yeah, It's only rescently I have started painting my goblins with variation. My high ranking Shaman, captains and prowlers are painted camo green skin, goblin horde goblin green, warg ravagers/riders goblin green, dwarf flesh and durburz catachan green. I did this because I got tired of the same kind of green skin and I was even tempted to paint some of them in muddy colours. I imagined them in the Hobbit to have murky dark green skin or grey skin before I saw the films. |
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| Author: | Anduril Blade of Kings [ Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:49 pm ] |
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I completely agree. Moria hordes should have at least various shades of green, if not gray and black. I remember a lot of the Moria orcs in the movies as having gray skin.
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| Author: | The_Dragon_of_Moria [ Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:04 am ] |
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As far as I remember (this a longish time ago as I was read the Hobbit when I was young) in the Hobbit they were described as having murky(or palid) green skin. I havn't read LotR so I would presume that Tolkien kept this the same in the fellowship. Another interesting thing is that different paint guides from the games workshop suggest different shades of green for painting goblins. BGiMe (issue 1): Goblin Green (paint supplied with issue) Mines of Moria (Read me First book): Camo Green Khazad-Dum (sourcebook): Catachan Green Interesting... At least it means more colour variation. Also Khazad-Dum book even has suggestions to make the skin more palid by adding Rotting Flesh. |
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| Author: | King Elessar the Uniter [ Thu Dec 03, 2009 7:42 pm ] |
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So if it didn't come from the books or the movies where did this "tradition" come from? |
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| Author: | The_Dragon_of_Moria [ Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:37 pm ] |
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I would guess it is indirectly a result of warhammer goblins being green so that to GW it would seem logical for LotR goblins to be green as well. This is wild speculation so I might be wrong. It may however link to the colour of orcs. In the books (This is straight from wiki since I've only read the hobbit) it describes orcs as having greyish/yellowish skin. |
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| Author: | King Elessar the Uniter [ Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:45 pm ] |
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The_Dragon_of_Moria wrote: I would guess it is indirectly a result of warhammer goblins being green so that to GW it would seem logical for LotR goblins to be green as well.
Yeah but GW paint their Orcs green as well; so why is it predominately LOTR GOBLINS that are just painted with green skin and people are often more likely to try different skin colours for their ORCS? Is it just that ORCS are bigger models and so people feel more confident in trying out new colour schemes? 
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| Author: | The_Dragon_of_Moria [ Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:58 pm ] |
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Orcs in the films have a variety of skin colours so I would guess that would be a reason. |
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| Author: | King Elessar the Uniter [ Sat Dec 05, 2009 5:04 pm ] |
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Yeah, that's probably the most simple and obvious answer. And I suppose when you start the hobby you're told Goblins are painted with green skin and so you learn to paint them so. We probably don't really question this as it was one of the first things we "learnt".
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