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| Author: | Bofur The Dwarf [ Fri May 23, 2014 3:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | White, black or grey? |
A typically silly question here; what coloured primer do you primarily use? Of course some models would be more suited to a specific colour (Nazgul=black), but for the majority of your other miniatures, what is the base colour you normally use or are used to using? I use grey because it isn't bright like white, but still light, so it's not too dark and you can see the detail. |
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| Author: | cooper101183 [ Fri May 23, 2014 5:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White, black or grey? |
For me it all depends on the model. I really like Imperial Primer and have painted some fantastic models using this having only recently started using it, I find the consistancy perfect, it covers and does not oscure details. I also find that it exposes all of the details. I really am a big fan this primer. |
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| Author: | Gene Parmesan [ Fri May 23, 2014 5:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White, black or grey? |
Was black for years and years, but since January I've been using combination black with light white spray from above. Twin priming or whatever you like to call it. |
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| Author: | Valadorn [ Fri May 23, 2014 8:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White, black or grey? |
This is a deep analysis for this topic and not only for the base undercoat but for layering undercoats or base highlight with aerograph. Watch it and you will get a really helpful answer imo. Generally those video series are superb for helping understand the difficult parts of our hobby ^^ |
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| Author: | mertaal [ Fri May 23, 2014 9:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White, black or grey? |
I use a zenithal pre-shade, or whatever else you want to call it. The colours depend on the model, but I try to create warm/cold contrast. For example, a dark maroon with a light green, or dark brown and light blue. |
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| Author: | Harfoot [ Fri May 23, 2014 11:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White, black or grey? |
Vallejo brown primer thinned and applied through an air brush |
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| Author: | Jamros [ Sat May 24, 2014 2:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White, black or grey? |
I used to use black a lot. I have painted only a handful of models in the past year or so, and I usually just skip the undercoat. It sounds a bit odd, but I was inspired by this article over at La Guerra del Anillo: http://laguerradelanillo.com/content/view/395/39/ |
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| Author: | JamesR [ Sat May 24, 2014 2:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White, black or grey? |
Black for myself. Although I'm experimenting with white primer as well. For strong contrasts I'll do both |
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| Author: | Valadorn [ Sat May 24, 2014 9:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White, black or grey? |
Harfoot wrote: Vallejo brown primer thinned and applied through an air brush The air version of "Matt German Camouflage Black Brown" ? Cause i d like to experiment too with dark browns as base. Gives nice highlights on skin colours i suppose and generally an earth approach to the colours. |
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| Author: | Coenus Scaldingus [ Sat May 24, 2014 9:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White, black or grey? |
Grey with a black wash these days. Recesses and tricky to reach places are still black (although not quite as hard dark as with a black primer), while lighter colours look just a bit better. Makes it easier to appreciate detail too. Only disadvantage is that it barely shows on some grey plastic figures... |
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| Author: | jdizzy001 [ Sat May 24, 2014 2:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White, black or grey? |
I use which ever i feel like for the day. Black, white or grey. I rotate thru. If i really want to add contrast to the mini i'll do the gray with a black wash followed by the zenthial highlight thing. |
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| Author: | Mapper [ Sun May 25, 2014 1:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White, black or grey? |
I use white for good guys and black for bad, I think it helps in the lightness and darkness of the forces. |
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| Author: | cooper101183 [ Sun May 25, 2014 3:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White, black or grey? |
I used to prime the faces with white, then the rest of the model with black, now its just black |
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| Author: | jdizzy001 [ Mon May 26, 2014 3:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White, black or grey? |
I'm surprised by the number of people who don't use white. I enjoy what a white primed mini looks like. I like to think of it thusly: white primed minis will yield something that looks like it came from the video game Fable. Very bright and fairy tale-ish. Black primed minis will yield a result that looks like it came out of Skyrim. Dark and "realistic." Which means it boils down to what you want out of the mini. Real-ish or sureal |
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| Author: | JamesR [ Mon May 26, 2014 3:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White, black or grey? |
jdizzy001 wrote: I'm surprised by the number of people who don't use white. I enjoy what a white primed mini looks like. I like to think of it thusly: white primed minis will yield something that looks like it came from the video game Fable. Very bright and fairy tale-ish. Black primed minis will yield a result that looks like it came out of Skyrim. Dark and "realistic." Which means it boils down to what you want out of the mini. Real-ish or sureal Thus you nailed exactly why i prefer black under-coats.I want the realistic look not a cartoonish one. Doesn't fit LOTR IMHO |
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| Author: | Harfoot [ Mon May 26, 2014 9:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White, black or grey? |
Valadorn wrote: Harfoot wrote: Vallejo brown primer thinned and applied through an air brush The air version of "Matt German Camouflage Black Brown" ? Cause i d like to experiment too with dark browns as base. Gives nice highlights on skin colours i suppose and generally an earth approach to the colours. I use a few RAL 8000 German Green Brown RAL 7028 German Dark Yellow US Olive Drab all Vallejo Surface primers |
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| Author: | jdizzy001 [ Mon May 26, 2014 3:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White, black or grey? |
JamesR wrote: jdizzy001 wrote: I'm surprised by the number of people who don't use white. I enjoy what a white primed mini looks like. I like to think of it thusly: white primed minis will yield something that looks like it came from the video game Fable. Very bright and fairy tale-ish. Black primed minis will yield a result that looks like it came out of Skyrim. Dark and "realistic." Which means it boils down to what you want out of the mini. Real-ish or sureal Thus you nailed exactly why i prefer black under-coats.I want the realistic look not a cartoonish one. Doesn't fit LOTR IMHO Priming in white doesn't yield a cartoonish mini. Lining the mini with black yields a cartoonish mini, as you would then have cartoon black lines. But yes, priming in white can yield a surreal looking mini. Here is a mini from a tutorial i found where the painter primed one in black and one in white. Can you tell which is which? It isn't terribly difficult once you know what you are looking for, but the point is, white or black, or grey, in the end, it doesn't make that big of a difference. |
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| Author: | JamesR [ Mon May 26, 2014 4:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: White, black or grey? |
By cartoonish I meant less realistic. IMO it takes far more work to achieve realistic color with the white priming. The point on black lines is correct of you leave any primer exposed, which you never should |
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