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 Post subject: Four 1,500pt SBG Armies
PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 10:25 pm 
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Not posted a new topic in here for donks but since so far I still haven't played Hobbit rules and everything I've done has been academic, and based on reasonable analyis of pts value and profiles in relation to exitsing pts values and profiles. In shorrt, I have come here. The armies are in spoiler tags to save space for scrolling.

The Dwellers in the Deep Places (Goblin Town, Moria, Azog’s Hunters):

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Warband 1
The Great Goblin
12 Goblin Warriors
Warband 2
The Goblin Scribe
12 Goblin Warriors
Warband 3
Grinnah
12 Goblin Warriors
Warband 4
Goblin Captain
12 Goblin Warriors
Warband 5
Goblin Captain
12 Goblin Warriors
Warband 6
Goblin Captain
7 Goblin Warriors
Warband 7
Fimbul w/ Fell Warg
7 Fell Wargs
Warband 8
Groblog, King of the Deep
1 Gundabad Blackshield Drummers (2 models)
2 Gundabad Blackshields
2 Gundabad Blackshields w/ spears
1 Dweller in the Dark
Warband 9
Moria Goblin Shaman
1 Cave Troll
1 Bat Swarm
Warband 10
Moria Goblin Shaman
1 Cave Troll
2 Warg Marauders
Warband 11
Cave Drake

Total pts: 1,500
No of models: 97
Mt pts: 21
Bows: 2
Break pt: 48


The Hunters of Rhudaur (Angmar, Azog’s Hunters, The Trolls):

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Warband 1
The Witch-king of Angmar (3/20/3) w/ Armoured Fell Beast
5 Orc Warriors w/ Shield
5 Orc Warriors w/ Spear
Warband 2
Barrow-Wight
6 Orc Warriors w/ Shields
6 Orc Warriors w/ Spears
Warband 3
Orc Captain w/ Shield
6 Orc Warriors w/ Shields
6 Orc Warriors w/ Spears
Warband 4
Orc Captain w/ Shield
6 Orc Warriors w/ Shields
6 Orc Warriors w/ Spears
Warband 5
Angmar Orc Shaman
6 Orc Warriors w/ Shields
6 Orc Warriors w/ Spears
Warband 6
Fimbul w/ Fell Warg
4 Hunter Orcs w/ Fell Wargs
8 Fell Wargs
Warband 7
Hunter Orc Captain
12 Hunter Orcs
Warband 8
William (Bill) w/ Campfire
Tom
Bert

Total pts: 1,500
Models: 92
Mt pts: 19
Bows: 0
Brk pt: 46


The Three Fallen Kings (Harad & Umbar, Easterlings):

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Warband 1
Mahûd King w/ War Camel, Shield & War Spear
6 Mahûd Raiders w/ War Spears
Warband 2
The Golden King of Abrakhân
6 Abrakhân Merchant Guards
6 Haradrim Warriors w/ Spears
Warband 3
Haradrim Chieftain
6 Abrakhân Merchant Guards
6 Haradrim Warriors w/ Spears
Warband 4
Haradrim Chieftain w/ Bow
6 Watchers of Kârna w/ Bows
4 Haradrim Warriors w/ Bows & Spears
2 Haradrim Warriors w/ Spears
Warband 5
Haradrim Taskmaster
6 Abrakhân Merchant Guards
6 Haradrim Warriors w/ Spears
Warband 6
Corsair Captain w/ Crossbow
12 Corsair Arbalesters
Warband 7
Khandish King w/ Bow & Khandish Chariot
4 Khandish Charioteers w/ Bows
Warband 8
Easterling Captain w/ Shield
4 Easterling Warriors w/ Shields
8 Easterling Warriors w/ Pikes & Shields
Warband 9
Easterling War Priest w/ Armoured Horse
2 Easterling Kataphrakts

Total pts: 1,500
Models: 93
Mt pts: 17
Bows: 29
Brk pt: 47


The Black Gate Opens (Mordor):

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Warband 1
Gothmog, Castellan of Morgul w/ Warg & shield
4 Warg Riders w/ Shields
5 Warg Riders w/ Throwing Spears & Shields
1 Great Beast of Gorgoroth
Warband 2
Mordor Troll Chieftain
4 Morannon Orcs w/ Shields
4 Morannon Orcs w/ Spears & Shields
4 Orc Trackers
Warband 3
Mordor Troll Chieftain
4 Morannon Orcs w/ Shields
4 Morannon Orcs w/ Spears & Shields
4 Orc Trackers
Warband 4
Grishnàkh, Orc Captain w/ Shield
4 Morannon Orcs w/ Shields
4 Morannon Orcs w/ Spears & Shields
4 Orc Trackers
Warband 5
Gorbag, Orc Captain w/ Shield
4 Morannon Orcs w/ Shields
4 Morannon Orcs w/ Spears & Shields
4 Orc Trackers
Warband 6
Mordor Orc Shaman
4 Morannon Orcs w/ Shields
4 Morannon Orcs w/ Spears & Shields
4 Orc Trackers
Warband 7
Mordor Orc Shaman
4 Morannon Orcs w/ Shields
4 Morannon Orcs w/ Spears & Shields
4 Orc Trackers
Warband 8
Castellan of Dol Guldor w/ Morgul Blade
Warband 9
Castellan of Dol Guldor w/ Morgul Blade

Total pts: 1,500
Models: 91
Mt pts: 15
Bows: 25
Brk pt: 46


A few additional points: I know Hunter orcs on Fell Wargs are abysmal but plan on using a few if terraign permits. I know castellans aren't particulaarly competitive but i didn't want to do any half warbamds plus it may help in deployment. Also, i am particularly interested in hearing from anyone who has used the Trolls.

Yes, these are all Evil lists, as the only Goo dmodels I currently own are the ones from EFGT and 2 Eagles, not exactly army material.

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 Post subject: Re: Four 1,500pt SBG Armies
PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 4:18 pm 
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that first army looks scary good, a little of everything. personally i would throw in another dweller in the dark, if you have the terrain to keep it out of fire, because its 7 fight value makes it perfect for chewing up heroes.

army 3, if you're going for that theme definitely include half trolls. though chariots look awesome, unless your opponent has lots of cavalry that aren't supported by troops i think that war band would be best replaced by half trolls. also chariots take up a lot of space which makes them pretty easy targets.

army 4 looks fine, well rounded too. i would put kardush in over one of the shamans.

i like the first army the best, it looks like the most fun to play especially since many of the units are hobbit oriented.
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 Post subject: Re: Four 1,500pt SBG Armies
PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:23 pm 
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Thank you for the reply 8)

Army 1: thank you, as of Dwellers, not sure I really want to buy another one at that price, although multiples would help make up for dieability. Unlike say Blackshields or Warg Marauders, you can't really convert it out of anything either.

Army 3: 2 months ago, I would have said the same thingg, and I did try to squeeze 12 of them in. But since half trolls cannot have 3 attacks anymore, one of them has to be strength 3, there appela has dropped a little, whereas Chariots with Brutal Power attacks have increased appeal. I could drop a warband to swap some guards for half trolls, but I'm not sure.

Army 4: Kardush yes, good idea, If I dropped a few little items.

Thanks for the imput, I will spleep on it.

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