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Which army is better and why? (Please vote and post below)
Army List 1 82%  82%  [ 9 ]
Army List 2 18%  18%  [ 2 ]
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 Post subject: Angmar 500pts
PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:33 pm 
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Army list 1:
Warband 1
Witch-King of Angmar, fellbeast, +2M, +3W+2F
5 Orc warriors with shield
5 Orc warriors with spear


Warband 2
Bhurdûr
5 Orc warriors with shield
5 Orc warriors with spear

Warband 3
Barrow Wight
5 Orc warriors with shield
5 Orc warriors with spear


Is this list better than this:

Army List 2:
Warband 1
Witch King with Dark steed +1 M, +1 F
9 Warriors with shields

Warband 2
Bhurdur, Hill Troll Chieftain
8 Orc Warriors with spears
2 Spectre

Warband 3
Orc Captain with shield
Cave troll
9 Orc Trackers


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 Post subject: Re: Angmar 500pts
PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:59 pm 
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List 1. You have the WK on a Fell Beast with more M/F. The two specters IMO arent enough to really benefit significantly from their special, while paralyze is quite useful

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 Post subject: Re: Angmar 500pts
PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:59 am 
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You need more Will not M/F, you should try to never take the W-K with less than 15 Will unless your using hims a budget wraith, and if you were, you wouldn't put him on a fell beast. Use list one but swap 1 m/f for 2 extra will

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 Post subject: Re: Angmar 500pts
PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:12 am 
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Ok. And drop the extra Orc too?
I'll edit the OP

EDIT: or I could drop 3 orcs and get the undying instead of the witch king?
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 Post subject: Re: Angmar 500pts
PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 11:32 am 
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Do not drop the might point. Instead always take all 3 might points, they are much more worth then the points they cost. I would play list one with the witchking of list two (but with 3 might points) and max your warbands. Even on fellbeast the witchking does not have enough attacks to face warriors and you have Bhurdur to kill the heros.
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 Post subject: Re: Angmar 500pts
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Frêrin wrote:
Do not drop the might point. Instead always take all 3 might points, they are much more worth then the points they cost. I would play list one with the witchking of list two (but with 3 might points) and max your warbands. Even on fellbeast the witchking does not have enough attacks to face warriors and you have Bhurdur to kill the heros.


He has 3 on the charge with access to BPA's. So long as you're not needlessly hasty then he's more than capable of killing most anything. Obviously. Just soften up tougher heroes with magic before you charge

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 Post subject: Re: Angmar 500pts
PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:01 pm 
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Thanks, but do you think the WK or the Undying is better?
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 Post subject: Re: Angmar 500pts
PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:28 pm 
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Personally I prefer the WK

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 Post subject: Re: Angmar 500pts
PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:36 am 
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Why?
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 Post subject: Re: Angmar 500pts
PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:01 pm 
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JamesR wrote:
He has 3 on the charge with access to BPA's.

I forgot the BPAs, I am new with the Hobbit rules. With spear support and the charge boni he sure is able to win fights an with the BPAs he's better in dealing damage to wariors.
But I would prefer the Undying. He 20 points cheaper than the Witchking with 2/20/2 and can use his will as fate what realy makes him undyable. The only advantage the withking is the extra might point.
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 Post subject: Re: Angmar 500pts
PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:14 pm 
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Thanks. Would you say that the barrow wight is better than a captain or shaman in this army?
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