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 Post subject: Help: 1500 Mordor or Fallen Realms?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:49 am 
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I have a match this Sunday against a 1500 point Gondor army.

I did come up with a Fallen realms army, but it is unpainted and I'm not kean on fielding unpainted figures.
Khamul the Easterling
Queen beruthil
Dalamyr
6 x comp harad - with the queen
3 x harad bow (either foot or mounted)
6 x corsairs with shields - with dalamyr
6 x Easterling warriors - with khamul
3 x kataphrakt

2 x mumak

.... But when I got them all lined up they looked a sorry state unpainted or really bad (bought off of eBay) painting.

So then I looked at my painted mordor...

18 x orcs with command (Gorgoroth horde)
4 x 6 comps morannon with Gothmog and 3 captains (gothmogs morannon Orc)
6 x warg riders

They are all painted and based and look nice... And the morannon orc battlehost are steadfast against humans!

What to do? If anyone has constructive advice then please help....

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 Post subject: Re: Help: 1500 Mordor or Fallen Realms?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:09 pm 
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Well, you are more likely to win with the Mordor list, as only Khamul and the Mumaks redeem you.

A few things you need to know about soe of the Fallen Reakms units:
1. Haradrim infantry with bows are good, they're dreadful without them, compare them to the WoMT your opponnet'll field and you'll see what I mean. They are usable without bows as long as, and only if, you permanently keep Khamul in them.
2. Corsair are the same cost and are even worse. If 6 comps of Orcs w shields including 3 comps in support fight 6 comps of Corsairs w shields includiong 3 in support, the fight's be even, only Corsair cost an extra 10pts per company (more than WoMT! :o ), I'd only ever take them with Dalamyr's Battlehost as they become Beserk.
3. Eastetrlings are better in formations of 4 comps with Dragon Knights and Kataphrakts are rarely worth it.
4. Centring your infantry around Easterlings would be a good idea (maybe Black Numenoreans or Khandish instead/as well, but they're metal) 2 or 3 blocks of 4 should do, woth Harad archers, mumakil, heroes and Harad Raiders.

So, in short, since your Mordor's already painted, and your troops aren't way too overcosted, you may be better of woth them.

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 Post subject: Re: Help: 1500 Mordor or Fallen Realms?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:07 pm 
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Thanks for that... I have started to collect the Fallen Realms but have never played them. I was thinking about giving them a go, certainly my son wants me to, but some of the paint jobs are awful!

I might just field mordor and paint up the fallen realms after my current project of rohan, but then I want to paint my gondor too... Maybe one day I will be able to play forces of good!

Still roll on Sunday :-)

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The mordor sounds like the one, especaily with the gorgaroth hoard, never seen one of those before.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:38 pm 
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Check out the link for my army blog, the last battle I played was with the Gorgoroth horde.... Not very manourverble but excellent with bows and 2hw!!!

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