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Paired themed 600 point good/evil forces
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Author:  lordgoober [ Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:04 am ]
Post subject:  Paired themed 600 point good/evil forces

Ok. I'm doing Bilbo's Birthday Bash in November and am trying to finish out my list decision making for that weekend. There is a bonus for themed Good/Evil forces. My theme is the Corsairs of Umbar raiding the Fiefdoms with all the living fiefdoms groups being involved.

Evil: This is set in stone. It's a good functional force

Warband 1: Dalamyr: 100
Followers 1: 2 Corsair Reavers 20, 3 Corsairs w Shield 24, 5 Corsairs w Spears 40

Warband 2: Corsair Captain w 2HW 55
Followers 2: 2 Corsair Reavers 20, 3 Corsairs w Shield 24, 5 Corsairs w Spears 40

Warband 3: Corsair Captain w Xbow 55
Followers 3: 9 Corsair Arbalesters 90

Warband 4: Corsair Bosun w Spear 46
Followers 4: 2 Corsair Reavers 20, 3 Corsairs w Shield 24, 5 Corsairs w Spears 40

Good: Fiefdoms. The main theme here is that each named character only has models from his own fiefdom in his warband.

Good: I have 2 different ideas for this.

Idea 1:

Warband 1: Imrahil: 135
Followers 1: 5 Knights of Dol Amroth 45, 6 Men at Arms w Pikes 54

Warband 2: Forlong the Fat 60
8 Axemen of Lossanarch 72

Warband 3: Angbor the Fearless: 55
6 Clansmen of Lamedon 48

Warband 4: Duinhir 65
8 Blackroot Vale Archers 64

Idea 2: The change is to give a little mounted punch to the force.

Warband 1: Imrahil: 135
Followers 1: 4 Foot Knights of Dol Amroth 36, 4 Men at Arms w Pikes 36, 3 Mounted Knights of Dol Amroth 57,

Warband 2: Forlong the Fat 60
6 Axemen of Lossanarch 54

Warband 3: Angbor the Fearless: 55
5 Clansmen of Lamedon 40

Warband 4: Duinhir 65
7 Blackroot Vale Archers 56

Opinions of the two good list ideas?

Author:  fritskuhntm [ Thu Sep 13, 2012 4:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Paired themed 600 point good/evil forces

I'd say drop Angbor and the clansmen for anything, they're worthless.

Author:  lordgoober [ Thu Sep 13, 2012 6:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Paired themed 600 point good/evil forces

Doesn't fit the theme here. The theme behind the good force is that Imrahil rallied the forces of the 4 fiedoms (Dol Amroth, Lossanarch, Lamedon and the Blackroot Vale) to repel the Corsairs. I know that Angbor and the Clansmen are unoptimal here but that would be unfluffy to lose them.

Author:  ElfGeneral [ Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Paired themed 600 point good/evil forces

what makes the Clansmen bad I always thought they were quite good

Author:  Elessar Telcontar [ Fri Sep 14, 2012 6:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Paired themed 600 point good/evil forces

ElfGeneral wrote:
what makes the Clansmen bad I always thought they were quite good

They're not directly bad, but 8 points is not good for F4 S3 D4 only hand and two-handed, and their banner effect only works if they are close to Angbor, who is a mediocre Hero.

Author:  ElfGeneral [ Fri Sep 14, 2012 11:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Paired themed 600 point good/evil forces

Elessar Telcontar wrote:
ElfGeneral wrote:
what makes the Clansmen bad I always thought they were quite good

They're not directly bad, but 8 points is not good for F4 S3 D4 only hand and two-handed, and their banner effect only works if they are close to Angbor, who is a mediocre Hero.


Ok so not bad but not good either

Author:  GothmogtheWerewolf [ Sat Sep 15, 2012 12:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Paired themed 600 point good/evil forces

I really like your Corsair list, but I'm not sure about the other one.

Author:  lordgoober [ Tue Oct 23, 2012 2:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Paired themed 600 point good/evil forces

Well, been thinking about things and done some tweaking of the good list.

Warband 1: Imrahil on foot: 125
4 Knights of Dol Amroth: 36
5 Men at Arms of Dol Amroth w pikes: 45

Warband 2: Captain of Dol Amroth Mounted w Lance: 75
3 Mounted Knights of Dol Amroth w Lance: 57

Warband 3: Forlong the Fat: 60
7 Axemen of Lossanarch: 63

Warband 4: Dunihir: 65
8 Blackroot Vale Archers: 64

600/600 points

Author:  whafrog [ Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Paired themed 600 point good/evil forces

It's a neat theme idea, but I'm not sure the profiles will support it. I think you'll have trouble with this, mainly not enough numbers. Also, Blackroot Vale archers are next to useless for the price imho, they're really only scenario material.

None of your warbands is maxed. You could probably drop the captain of DA if you shuffled things around, and end up with more troops in each warband.

Lastly, the potential of Imrahil is going to waste. His banner effect covers a huge area, it's almost a shame not to fill it.

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