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Author:  Melarki [ Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:34 am ]
Post subject:  Help with a new dwarf army
So I have recently started a new dwarf army and pretty much have no idea what units I should be taking. So far the only thing i know is that i want to include iron guard, but besides that i could use some advice. What are your favorite dwarf units and/or heros? What are some of the pros and cons of the units you have experience with? I would like to make a fairly balanced force so units that can fill multiple roles or have multiple uses in battle are prefered. Thanks in advanced for the responses :-D
Author:  SidTheSloth [ Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:50 am ]
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Khazad guard are good 8)
They helped me take down a cave troll once 8)
Author:  Constantine [ Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:57 am ]
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Goodmorning Melarkil

I solely play Dwarves and I love every aspect of them. Your army composition will depend on your point limit and your scenario. Nevertheless I will give you my thoughts for the units based on my experience with them. (I haven't yet played with the new edition of the rules).

Dwarf warriors with Shields are great. I mostly include shield warriors rather that axemen when I have a choice. Shielding can be extremely useful, even more so with the sturdy dwarves.
For ranged support I prefer Dwarf Bowmen over Dwarf Rangers with longbows. You should always consider the average defense your opponents' armies will have. Generally higher bow strength is better that +1 shooting value. As for the ballista, my initial aspirations for it, has by now completely turned into frustration. Don't include it in your army unless in sieges.
Regarding specialized troops: Khazad Guards in conjunction with Iron Guards work great. Protect the more vulnerable (for Dwarves) Irons with Khazad until you reach the fight. Then take advantage of the Irons extra attacks attacks and Khazads' two-handed axes, combined with their high strentgh and fight values they are deadly. Keep in mind that throwing weapons, therefore Iron Guards', effectiveness has been reduced with the new edition of the rules. Vault Warden are beasts. yet you should take care to protect the Spears as their defense is low. Refrain from using them in boards with very open fields. If you place them in suitable positions, bottlenecks etc, even an unsupported Shield will hold for a long time. Yet they do come at a substantial point cost.

Recommended Heroes:
Gimlin, Balin, highly recommended even in low-points games.
A single Shieldbearer should be enough for a large game. Try to have him fight close by the hero he is protecting to take fully advantage of him.
Floi is a must. Dain and Durin are also extremely capable and worthy but should only be included in games with around 1000 points.
Author:  LordElrond [ Mon Jan 07, 2013 7:59 am ]
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SidTheSloth wrote:
Khazad guard are good 8)
They helped me take down a cave troll once 8)


You don't really need anything special to beat a cave troll. I killed him with one elf...
Author:  LordElrond [ Mon Jan 07, 2013 8:05 am ]
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Dwarf warriors are very hard to kill because of their very high defence.

The question is whether you want your archers to be dwarf warriors (short range, high strength) or dwarf rangers (better shooting value, longer range, less strength. Dwarf rangers also have the mountain dweller rule which is also very useful)
Author:  ManHell [ Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:33 am ]
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Constantine, nice post, agree with you completely.

LordElrond wrote:
The question is whether you want your archers to be dwarf warriors (short range, high strength) or dwarf rangers (better shooting value, longer range, less strength. Dwarf rangers also have the mountain dweller rule which is also very useful)


I think that Dwarf rangers are a bit pricey...
Author:  SidTheSloth [ Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Help with a new dwarf army
LordElrond wrote:
SidTheSloth wrote:
Khazad guard are good 8)
They helped me take down a cave troll once 8)


You don't really need anything special to beat a cave troll. I killed him with one elf...



KG's are good though, and they don't die easily
Author:  LordElrond [ Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:22 am ]
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Agreed
Author:  ElfLover [ Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:30 pm ]
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Gimli, Dain and Balin are good dwarf heroes
Author:  Thermo [ Mon Jan 07, 2013 12:41 pm ]
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If you want Dain and Balin, Khazad Guards and Dwarf Warriors... check out my trade thread! :)
Author:  SouthernDunedain [ Mon Jan 07, 2013 1:19 pm ]
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SidTheSloth wrote:
LordElrond wrote:
SidTheSloth wrote:
Khazad guard are good 8)
They helped me take down a cave troll once 8)


You don't really need anything special to beat a cave troll. I killed him with one elf...



KG's are good though, and they don't die easily



going off topic quickly, I wiped out a khazad guard warband with my trackers in combat :lol:
Back on topic: Durin is beastly. For the points you pay, he is worth it imo. High def, High fv and numerous special rules which buff him to the heavens. I always struggle to kill him. Even harder now he can boost his FV with heroic strikes.
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