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| Author: | Da Great MC [ Wed May 29, 2013 9:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | The Fiefdoms 500pts for first games |
Hi, next Friday we'll be playing our first games. As I still have to open boxes, glue stuff together, greenstuff, undercoat... I decided to focus on quality rather than numbers for now. Prince Imrahil Of Dol Amroth + armoured horse 6x Knight Of Dol Amroth + armoured horse King Of The Dead 2x Rider Of The Dead 6x Warrior Of The Dead I hope it turns out to be playable. I'll enjoy it for sure!! |
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| Author: | JamesR [ Wed May 29, 2013 1:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Fiefdoms 500pts for first games |
Obviously that's a small force as you stated. Riders of the dead are actually some of my least favorite units in the game because they don't count as cavalry lol. |
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| Author: | Denizen [ Wed May 29, 2013 1:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Fiefdoms 500pts for first games |
JamesR wrote: Obviously that's a small force as you stated. Riders of the dead are actually some of my least favorite units in the game because they don't count as cavalry lol. They do. They didn't keep that rule in the sourcebooks. Maybe you need some wargear? Giving some of your warriors shields to improve survivability (even more). Spear are always handy. And lances for those SKODA. |
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| Author: | GothmogtheWerewolf [ Wed May 29, 2013 1:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Fiefdoms 500pts for first games |
JamesR wrote: Obviously that's a small force as you stated. Riders of the dead are actually some of my least favorite units in the game because they don't count as cavalry lol. Wrong dear fellow. Look at the Kingdoms off Men sourcebook. Riders of the Dead are now cavalry and have been cavalry since January 2012. EdiT: Ninjad. |
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| Author: | JamesR [ Wed May 29, 2013 3:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Fiefdoms 500pts for first games |
Appologies I do not have the kingdoms of men sourcebook, just the Return of the King journey book. That's a MAJOR upgrade |
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| Author: | Da Great MC [ Thu May 30, 2013 7:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Fiefdoms 500pts for first games |
I replaced Prince Imrahil with a mounted Captain of Dol Amroth and added some lances, spears and extra numbers... Warband 1 Captain of Dol Amroth w/ Armoured Horse & Lance 6x Knight Of Dol Amroth w/ Armoured Horse & Lance 1x Knight Of Dol Amroth on foot (I have just this one metal model lying around, so why not use it) Warband 2 King Of The Dead 2x Rider Of The Dead 4x Warrior Of The Dead w/ Spear 6x Warrior Of The Dead Exactly 500 pts 
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| Author: | Bilbo [ Fri May 31, 2013 2:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Fiefdoms 500pts for first games |
Yo definitely want spears with the men of the dead! |
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| Author: | Saunders [ Fri May 31, 2013 5:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Fiefdoms 500pts for first games |
The King, Warriors and Riders of the Dead will only be counted as being armed with hand weapons. |
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| Author: | Bilbo [ Fri May 31, 2013 6:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Fiefdoms 500pts for first games |
Not if you pay the points for spears or shields specified in the source book! |
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| Author: | Da Great MC [ Fri May 31, 2013 8:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Fiefdoms 500pts for first games |
Which is why I paid for 4 spears. The guys in the front rank don't benefit from spears now do they? (remember, I've never played, so I could use some tips) But no more tips regarding to warband construction for next Friday's opening game. I've just spend the best part of today glueing and green stuffing the army list above (opening two extra blisters to get four spear wielding guys, stupid wysiwyg). |
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| Author: | whafrog [ Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Fiefdoms 500pts for first games |
Da Great MC wrote: Which is why I paid for 4 spears. The guys in the front rank don't benefit from spears now do they? (remember, I've never played, so I could use some tips) Skirmish games being what they are, the guys in the front rank don't always stay there. Simple example: your spears can be shot, then you might wish you could peel a "front rank" model to lend support somewhere else. If you have the points, more/extra spears give you some tactical flexibility. |
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| Author: | Da Great MC [ Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Fiefdoms 500pts for first games |
Having played two games with this army list got me sold on the game. I like a lot of the mechanics! But I've found that I have need for some shooting attacks, so I want to include a regiment of Gondorian bowmen. Do I have to separate Gondor & Fiefdoms when calculating bow limit? Or do they count as one? |
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| Author: | GothmogtheWerewolf [ Fri Jun 28, 2013 11:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Fiefdoms 500pts for first games |
Da Great MC wrote: Do I have to separate Gondor & Fiefdoms when calculating bow limit? Or do they count as one? There isn't a "Gondor" list, its Minas Tirith, and yes the bow limits are separate. |
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| Author: | whafrog [ Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Fiefdoms 500pts for first games |
Da Great MC wrote: Having played two games with this army list got me sold on the game. I like a lot of the mechanics! But I've found that I have need for some shooting attacks, so I want to include a regiment of Gondorian bowmen. Glad you like the game! . You might consider Rangers instead. They shoot betterment have higher fight, and can still provide spear support.
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| Author: | Da Great MC [ Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Fiefdoms 500pts for first games |
I was just checking the "Kingdoms Of Men" sourcebook, which got me considering Blackroot Vale Archers. Even though I'm reading a lot of bad stuff about them here (being overpriced, not being able to take spears), it's the only option to get "Fiefdoms-archers". On the GW site I can order "Duinhir" & "Blackroot Vale Archers Command". How about the core troops? Which models are suggested? Rangers Of Middle Earth? |
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| Author: | whafrog [ Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Fiefdoms 500pts for first games |
Da Great MC wrote: On the GW site I can order "Duinhir" & "Blackroot Vale Archers Command". How about the core troops? Which models are suggested? Rangers Of Middle Earth? Rangers of Middle Earth are for Arnor, Gondor, and Blackroot Vale. The latter really are terrible, IMHO. Average fight, bad courage, but the kicker is no spears, which could mitigate the other two a bit. They really are only for scenario games against monsters. You might be better off allying in a Grey Company contingent, but that does require a sizeable investment in GC heroes and RotN. |
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| Author: | Da Great MC [ Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Fiefdoms 500pts for first games |
Having a game next Thursday. 750 pts. We house ruled that Aragorn is allowed to lead the Army of the Dead (since the King of the Dead really isn't worth the points investment). I buy him a horse and send 2 Riders of the Dead along with him to keep him from being outnumbered. The foot troops (Warriors of the Dead) go wherever they are needed. My cavalry consists of a Dol Amroth Captain + some mounted Knights w/ lances. I have some infantry Knights too but I hesitate to field them. My third unit will be Duinhir + some Blackroot Vale Archers. I know people think they are very weak, but it's the only way to sneak in enough bows and they hit on a 3+, which can't be that bad? Anyway, I'll be back after the game to tell how it went... |
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