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Author:  Thermo [ Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:05 am ]
Post subject:  350 point tournament list thoughts
Coming up is a very big tournament at a very awkward points limit, 350!

Not only does this tournament contribute to the 2014 GBHL season (of which I'm somehow miraculously 3rd!) but also will be the deciding tournament for the 2013 season.

This means we're going to see some horrendously cheesy lists!

Originally, my thinking was a very Thermo-esque list.

Knight of the Pelennor (armoured horse)
10 x Sons of Eorl

But with the tournament set to be so solo full of cheese AND for it counting to the 2014 season, I've started to really consider the scenarios.

Game 1 - Modified Recon (same as normal recon except 1 VP for exiting more models than opponent, 3 for double, 5 for triple, with 1, 3 and 5 added for each if your opponent fails to exit the board.

Game 2 - To The Death

Game 3 - Spawn of Ungoliant (hold ground set up with a monster spider controlled by player with priority that adds additional VPs for wounding or killing it (like leader) http://www.dropbox.com/s/q3neuif4pwgc77u/shadow_and_sorcery_event_pack.pdf

Game 4 - Domination

Game 5 - Shadow and Sorcery (lords of battle but you choose either Gandalf the grey or radagast the brown on foot if good, or saruman or Witch King on foot if evil.

With the last round being Lords of Battle and the points cost being 350 points, I think it's likely to see a few all hero armies. But domination and even modified recon favour some numbers.

I'm interested in what you guys think would be useful lists or lists we might see a lot of at this tournament?
Author:  JamesR [ Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:43 am ]
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Personally I think Isengard or Dwarves are the best bet at this level. Because you're likely to see all hero armies and either of those teams can at least slow heroes with their standard units.

If I were going I'd probably bring my 350 Moria list thou.

Warband 1
Durburz
12x Moria Goblins

Warband 2
Goblin Shaman
12x Moria Goblins

Warband 3
Goblin Shaman
12x Moria Goblins

Warband 4
Goblin Captain
4x Moria Goblins (3 w spear)
Author:  NarsilReforged [ Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:26 am ]
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At low points level I reckon either take all Hero or lots of monsters. Something most infantry armies won't be able to deal with.
Author:  SuicidalMarsbar [ Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:00 am ]
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It won't be a cheese fest, since the points only apply once per year. Even if it was uber important the people who care enough about league position will already be using stinking bishop. I would go for the Son of Eorl list, against heroes the high attack value will force them to use might to win fights, and against hordes you can safely take on 2-3 models a turn.

I will probably be using a dragon with fly and tough hide or dwarves, or corsairs - all stuff I'd use anyway coz i am a pro.
Author:  Thermo [ Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:23 am ]
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It will DEFINITELY be a cheese fest Joe, I'm certain of it!
Author:  rigg1313 [ Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:27 pm ]
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The obvious option is Mumak!
Author:  NarsilReforged [ Sun Mar 09, 2014 1:04 pm ]
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Or Sauron without the ring.
Author:  Knife in the Dark [ Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:09 am ]
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Max revers. Shade. Boom!
Author:  JamesR [ Mon Mar 10, 2014 2:18 am ]
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Knife in the Dark wrote:
Max revers. Shade. Boom!


YOU sir, are banned for life for that one lol
Author:  Gondorian Captain [ Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:46 pm ]
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Hey Thermo, do you actually have 10 Sons of Eorl yet?

Alternatively you could through Erkenbrand in and take an equivalent number of redshields, or even Eowyn and a mix of sons and riders. My issue with the sons of Eorl list is they lack any kind of bowfire and archers are a valuable tool for cavalry. You may also find three might is a touch short even with an army of Eorlings.

If your looking for a harder army...well that Rivendel knight/Son of eorl combo looked pretty decent. The elves complementing what the sons bring to the table nicely.

At this level its always difficult working out a good balance, I took all cavalry gondor to the last one, only won once against easterling infantry, the one game I was certain I'd lose lol.

Regardless of cheese the rules stay the same, pick something you know how to use and try to make the most of its strengths.

If a particular model arrives in time I will be using a themed all hero list :)
Author:  JamesR [ Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 350 point tournament list thoughts
Here you go James try this list lol

Warband 1
Radagast the brown w/ Sebastian on sleigh

Warband 2
Eowyn w horse, shield & armor
8x Riders of Rohan

Just imagine. A thunderous cavalry charge led by the mighty bunnies lol!
But in all seriousness it'd work well as Radagast could channel Aura of Dismay to prevent being counter-charged
Author:  Thermo [ Mon Mar 10, 2014 1:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 350 point tournament list thoughts
I've got six sons!

So to be honest, not quite enough :)

It's tough to know what to do...

Hashaarin
10 Corsair Reavers

Shade
10 Orcs with spear

= 350 points

:wink:
Author:  SouthernDunedain [ Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:19 pm ]
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I don't think it'll be too cheesy. Although I do have a feeling that most people will bring all hero...which will be boring...go with the sons 8) only when you are top of the league by only using Rohan we will accept that rohan are good ;)
Author:  Dr Grant [ Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:37 pm ]
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All hero all mounted Rohan?

Eomer, KOTP, Armoured horse
Erkenbrand, horse
Eorl the Young
Captain of Rohan on horse

BOOM! FLUFF!
Author:  Thermo [ Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:43 pm ]
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Shade on fellbeast supported by Alfrid Reavers ;)

Think I know what I'm bringing anyhow :)

What's everyone else got planned?
Author:  Dr Grant [ Mon Mar 10, 2014 6:44 pm ]
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I'm dithering between my Ferals who normally do really well at low points games (they won 5/6 games at this 300 point event last year) and Thorin, Dwalin, Gloin and Dori who would likely do reasonably well but not challenge the big boys. Gonna try and sort out some practice games wit Tom H this week to make my mind up, think my Ferals need to re-assert themselves after the Grinstead debacle! :-)
Author:  Thermo [ Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:39 pm ]
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What would your 350 point feral list be do you think?
Author:  NarsilReforged [ Mon Mar 10, 2014 7:54 pm ]
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Shades can't ride Fell Beasts. And power gaming sucks so don't go with the shade/reaver combo.
Author:  Dr Grant [ Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:58 pm ]
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NarsilReforged wrote:
Shades can't ride Fell Beasts


Pretty sure there's no such thing as Alfrid Reavers either! Thermo was being a tad facetious I fear :lol:

Something like this I reckon:

Vrasku
Armoured shaman
13 ferals
7 Crossbowmen

The main dilemma is whether to swap the shaman for a D7 captain. Is probable (2 dice needing a 3+) game wide Fury better than 2 more Might (effectively), a D7 leader and another good fighter. Hmmm, decisions, decisions...
Author:  Knife in the Dark [ Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 350 point tournament list thoughts
JamesR wrote:
Knife in the Dark wrote:
Max revers. Shade. Boom!


YOU sir, are banned for life for that one lol



Oh sarcasm, shame one day I was planning to visit Dallas with Revers in tow....


Thermo wrote:
I've got six sons!

So to be honest, not quite enough :)

It's tough to know what to do...

Hashaarin
10 Corsair Reavers

Shade
10 Orcs with spear

= 350 points

:wink:



It's not bad, except it's really not a lot of might...

Honestly James find a way to edit your Rohan list, everyone will probably be much happier with you....
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