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| Author: | Frêrin [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 9:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | 450 points Goblin Town |
Which of the two following list do you think is stronger? The Goblinking 12 Goblinwarrior Grinnah 12 Goblinwarrior Moria Goblin Shaman 5 Moria Goblins with shields 6 Moria Goblins with spears Now here is the first option for the fourth warband: The Scribe 11 Goblinwarrior And the second option: Goblincaptain 6 Goblinwarriors Gollum _____________________________________ 450 points; 6/9 might; 50/46 models So basically its Scribe+5 Goblins vs. Captain and Gollum. I only played 2 games with the Scribe and don't know if he is worth his points. But he is a great model in my opinion and I think the goblins entering the field from every edge is really funny and how I imagine an goblin army. But the second option has a great fluff, too. And 3 more mightpoints. I don't own Gollum jet, but I think with F5 and the ring he can be really annoying against heros, who could take the Goblinking. |
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| Author: | Galanur [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 450 points Goblin Town |
you could use the last warband a gundabad blackshield shaman maybe... the S6 tremor is nasty and the disarm/destroy weapons spell 2 :P |
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| Author: | orc-archer [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 450 points Goblin Town |
Second, Gollum is a brilliant addition to a Goblin Town army imo. |
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| Author: | Frêrin [ Fri Dec 19, 2014 11:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 450 points Goblin Town |
@Galanur: do you think a blackshield shaman is that strong? He only got 3 points of will and tremor is 5+. By the way I don't think he is that fluffy. @orc-archer: Have you played him? I'm a bit afraid of rolling 1s and 2s with the ring on and Gollum being moved and totally useless, but even if it's only 3* points. |
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| Author: | JamesR [ Sat Dec 20, 2014 12:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 450 points Goblin Town |
Do the scribe but add in another regular shaman. The fury is the only way the scribe is worth it as he basically makes your army break more easily. But the extra fury bubble keeps your goblins on the field |
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| Author: | Frêrin [ Sat Dec 20, 2014 12:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 450 points Goblin Town |
@JamesR: I thought about taking a shaman instead of the scribe, but taking scribe+2 shamans and Goblin King would leave me with only 3 might (if I do canalized furies) and this is not enough in my opinion. An other option would be to play option two with Scribe instead of 3/4 Goblins + Captain. |
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| Author: | Galanur [ Sat Dec 20, 2014 12:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 450 points Goblin Town |
then add groblog and save that shaman fury might point |
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| Author: | JamesR [ Sat Dec 20, 2014 12:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 450 points Goblin Town |
I think you misunderstood. Drop the goblins in the Scribes Warband and add in the second shaman. Or drop them elsewhere. The saves, plus the free goblins, plus keeping the hordes on the forks once your army is broken is worth the 11-12 goblins as you'll get even more in the long run |
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| Author: | Frêrin [ Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 450 points Goblin Town |
@Galanur: I won't to keep the Goblintown theme and therefore only take a few Moria Goblin as armoured elite troop. @JamesR: Yeah I missunderstood. You mean I schould field Goblin King, Scribe, Grinnah and 2 Shamans? But this would mean 300 points heros  leaving "only" about 35 warriors and only 7 warriors in one warband. Moreover I'm easier to break. And no Gollum against mighty heros.
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| Author: | artlessmammet [ Sat Dec 20, 2014 12:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 450 points Goblin Town |
Ideally it won't matter if your army breaks, because your whole army benefits from Fury. The Goblin King is also pretty reliable at dealing with enemy heroes; his Projectile ability is pretty entertaining and doesn't seem to have any movement restrictions on it, and he is after all a Monster, so Rending and Hurling is something he can do as a matter of course. Two shamans also means you can claim multiple objectives after force broken, where otherwise you might have issues with the abysmal courage values of your troops. |
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| Author: | Frêrin [ Sat Dec 20, 2014 12:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 450 points Goblin Town |
Yeah I'll think about it. The problem with throwing Goblins is he only hits on 6. Of cause the Goblinking is able to deal with heros, but there are a few heros I don't want him to face (Thorin with Orcrist for example). I'll have to play a few games with different versions and look what is missing. |
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| Author: | JamesR [ Sat Dec 20, 2014 2:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 450 points Goblin Town |
The other point I think that should be made about multiple shamen is that it makes the fury bubble much tougher to deal with. If you only take one, then that model begins priority number 1. With two or more the task of eradicating fury becomes far more problematic. Also remember, killing a shaman isn't the easiest way to eliminate fury. A simple "Sap Will" does the job, as my friend using goblin town learned last game when my budget Wraith "popped" the bubble and then caused 20 goblins to fail their courage tests (including the king) and flee due to his harbinger of evil. All without his ever being in combat |
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| Author: | Frêrin [ Sat Dec 20, 2014 6:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 450 points Goblin Town |
I'll only play against good armies with this. I would not play goblins if I could play against a ringwraith. Two shamans would be more reliable casting the spell. (And furthermore I don't have that much experience so that I am able to protect the shaman in every situation). What do you think about this list: Goblinking 7 Goblinwarrior Grinnah 7 Goblinwarrior Scribe 6 Goblinwarrior Moria Goblin Shaman 3 Moria Goblins with shields 4 Moria Goblins with spears Moria Goblin Shaman 3 Moria Goblins with shields 4 Moria Goblins with spears ______________________________ 450 points; 39 models; 8 might |
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| Author: | D0Cdeath [ Sat Dec 27, 2014 9:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 450 points Goblin Town |
ive just started playing goblin town so my comments maybe wrong , but I think your list look very good . In fact I will be using in tonight's game , hope you don't mind 
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| Author: | Frêrin [ Sat Dec 27, 2014 1:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 450 points Goblin Town |
I'll don't mind, if you leave a post here, how the list worked out. |
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