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DwarfWarrior
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Post subject: Dwarves
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:49 pm
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Joined: Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:25 pm Posts: 136 Location: Bournemouth
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Does any of the more experienced players know if it is worth getting dwarf warrior archers ?, or am i better off just getting more khazad guard or iron guard.
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JamesR
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Post subject: Re: Dwarves
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:03 pm
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Joined: Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:18 pm Posts: 2528 Location: Dallas, Texas
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It depends on what strategy you choose to use. There rarely are units that have no real value to their use
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Coenus Scaldingus
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Post subject: Re: Dwarves
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 9:19 pm
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Joined: Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:14 am Posts: 1121
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As the newish scenarios mean that shooting is less useful, you may often come across opponents entirely without any missile power.. which in turn means that you can outshoot them, depleting the opposing army with no damage in return! Decent archers are almost always useful to get rid of some enemy spear support or simply lower their numbers.
Even in combat, Dwarven archers are as good as a Rohan Royal Guard however: good fighters (F4) and tough too (Defence 6). Only when you are certain of encountering a lot of S4 enemies, is it worth considering swapping those guys for more D7 troops. Other than that, you won't often regret taking along a band of archers.
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DwarfWarrior
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Post subject: Re: Dwarves
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:07 pm
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Joined: Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:25 pm Posts: 136 Location: Bournemouth
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NarsilReforged
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Post subject: Re: Dwarves
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:04 am
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Joined: Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:13 am Posts: 316
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I actually prefer the Dwarf Warrior Bowmen. I did the math, and not taking into consideration the bow range, the Dwarf Warriors have on average a higher chance of wounding enemies with their bows. They also have defence 6 making them obviously better in melee fighting as well. And they cost 1 less point so if you're buying archers in bulk those extra points can really count e.g. swapping out Khazad Guard for Iron Guard, giving Heroes equipment etc.
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Beowulf03809
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Post subject: Re: Dwarves
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:20 pm
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Joined: Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:53 pm Posts: 1827 Location: CO, USA
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I have faced many Dwarf armies and can say that under the old rules I would say the Rangers were always valuable on the table. Under the newer rules where deployments can be much closer the extra range of the Rangers, combined with their slightly lower (bow) strength and lower defense they just don't 'feel' as effective to me. I still hate seeing them but in the couple games I've faced off against Dwarves under the new deployment rules the Dwarf Warriors with bows seem more effective overall.
This is very similar to the Uruk Scouts. An Uruk Hai Scout with a bow is every bit as good of a combat model as any other Uruk Hai Scout except for the lack of shield. So if you can get a couple kills with the bows without actually counting on them then you're doing good and still have some effective forces when you engage. Dwarf Warriors with bows are, as pointed out above, otherwise every bit as good as any other Dwarf Warrior except for the little Defense difference. If they can take out a few enemy or enemy mounts with their bows before engaging that's bonus, but don't count on it.
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