As the title says
.Moreover, I saw the special rule of Denethor and was a bit confused. Does the rule mean that the enemy player can only move Denethor or can he also let Denethor attack friendly units?
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| Author: | MacCollac [ Fri Sep 02, 2016 11:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Can a (morgul) knight be given a horn and lance? |
As the title says .Moreover, I saw the special rule of Denethor and was a bit confused. Does the rule mean that the enemy player can only move Denethor or can he also let Denethor attack friendly units? |
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| Author: | Bronf [ Fri Sep 02, 2016 12:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Can a (morgul) knight be given a horn and lance? |
the horns are there to just give +1 to courage and have no negatives when you put them onto a troop. its just lost once that model dies. and denethor is controlled by the other player and they can use him to charge and kill your own troops. but other then that he is still considered a good model on the purpose of his own troops striking back or shooting at him. |
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| Author: | chiefhugh [ Fri Sep 02, 2016 1:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Can a (morgul) knight be given a horn and lance? |
I'm of the opinion that war horns and war drums (yes even goblin drums) are over priced. I often play morguls knights (between 7-8) and I have found the dark marshal is the best to lead them. Couldn't resist commenting, I love morgul knights |
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| Author: | Bronf [ Fri Sep 02, 2016 2:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Can a (morgul) knight be given a horn and lance? |
hmm maybe the moria drums but not the gundabad ones. imo ill have the moria drums to be 75 at least because there not as mobile but having a 12' banner a penalty to your opponet's courage and a extra courage to your own army is a really good buffer for your force. the gundabad one does the same thing but other gundabad goblins can pick it up move and still be in effect all game. |
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| Author: | chiefhugh [ Fri Sep 02, 2016 4:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Can a (morgul) knight be given a horn and lance? |
I understand your point. I just don't see either of those taking off at least 100 points from the enemy by their effects. |
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| Author: | Spike117 [ Fri Sep 02, 2016 8:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Can a (morgul) knight be given a horn and lance? |
chiefhugh wrote: I understand your point. I just don't see either of those taking off at least 100 points from the enemy by their effects. I figure the larger the points of each side, the more proportionally effective it is. At like 350 points, it's probably a waste. At maybe 750 or 1,000, I can see it pulling it's weight pretty well. |
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| Author: | MacCollac [ Sat Sep 03, 2016 12:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Can a (morgul) knight be given a horn and lance? |
So the anwser is yes, a morgul knight can be given a lance/shield and warhorn? |
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| Author: | Galanur [ Sun Sep 04, 2016 8:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Can a (morgul) knight be given a horn and lance? |
yes |
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| Author: | MacCollac [ Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Can a (morgul) knight be given a horn and lance? |
same goes for the banner, only he has -1 to his duel roll? |
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| Author: | infinateremains [ Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Can a (morgul) knight be given a horn and lance? |
MacCollac wrote: same goes for the banner, only he has -1 to his duel roll? Correct! |
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| Author: | MacCollac [ Wed Sep 07, 2016 1:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Can a (morgul) knight be given a horn and lance? |
and for a foot soldiers, for example a dwarf warrior. Can he be given a banner and shield and still make use of the shielding rule? |
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| Author: | infinateremains [ Wed Sep 07, 2016 2:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Can a (morgul) knight be given a horn and lance? |
MacCollac wrote: and for a foot soldiers, for example a dwarf warrior. Can he be given a banner and shield and still make use of the shielding rule? Yep. That's why a shield may be worth it on a banner bearer, it wouldn't otherwise since they don't gain the +1D |
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| Author: | largonien [ Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Can a (morgul) knight be given a horn and lance? |
@infinateremains : can you tell me where the rules say that? I can't find it 
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| Author: | UFC_189 [ Thu Sep 08, 2016 5:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Can a (morgul) knight be given a horn and lance? |
I hope they make war horns cheaper. |
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| Author: | infinateremains [ Tue Sep 13, 2016 12:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Can a (morgul) knight be given a horn and lance? |
I will admit, after looking, that the banner bearers can take a shield and still benefit from it completely. |
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| Author: | Steven bonnar [ Tue Sep 13, 2016 2:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Can a (morgul) knight be given a horn and lance? |
UFC_189 wrote: I hope they make war horns cheaper. For hobbits forces there 30pts and for lotr forces 20pts, so I think there going up in points but will have to wait see! But they could also put in a clause that the pts will be dependant on the highest warrior courage in the force you are running, C2-3 =20pts. C4=25pts C5=30pts Or something similar or other way round due to it being more useful for lower courage warriors etc! |
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