Valadorn wrote:
Yeah exactly but I am claiming that except one handed wep (whatever it is sword claw or even a banana) a weapon with special effect like on giving +1S as our friend calls in this conversation needs to be said in the miniature's entry in the book. Just misunderstanding np.
Where does it say that in the rule book? Most of the old source books don't even say hand weapon. It does say in the rule-book that most models have a sculpted on weapon that gives it the special strikes ability, if it does not have one the model may not make special strikes. This is an example of how many archers can't do this normally unless a hand weapon is sculpted on. So it doesn't have to say that the model is equipped with that hand weapon, that's why wood elves can have axes and all other sorts of weapons if you sculpt them or convert them on.
JamesR wrote:
Ok but look at the model as sculpted. This model was released pre- special strikes so there was no need to specify. Also look at intent, Dr Grant, and myself had a long tirade against rule -abuse of finding loop- holes in the rules. This is an instance of that vulnerability
JamesR pretty much sums up what I have just said above, I only realized it now. I do agree I wish people wouldn't abuse it but competitive gamers will do what they can to get what they can from the rules. Since I can't specify what the sourebook says for the Moria and Agmar I can't tell you what the entry says it's armed with if it says it's armed with anything.
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