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Author:  pwner jaleno [ Sat Jun 14, 2008 9:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Black Numenorean Commander
I realized yesterday that the BLack numenoreans have no Living Commander. So I set about rectifying that.

Daerak

F/S St D A W C M W F
6/- 4 6 3 3 5 3 2 2

Wargear

Ghul Marzad (elf blade) see main rule manule for details
Cloak of Night: (Elven cloak) see main rules manule for details

Special Rules

Terror: see main rules manule
Voice of Command: stand fast range is 12"


please play test with him and comment
Author:  the director [ Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:50 pm ]
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i may have missed something but i can't see the points anywhere (call me stupid if it's obvious :P)
Author:  pwner jaleno [ Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:03 am ]
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You are completly right sorry bout that. He is 100 points. Thx
Author:  WanderingDunedain [ Sun Jun 15, 2008 10:05 am ]
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i actualy think hees a bit too expencive
Author:  Mouth-of-Sauron [ Sun Jun 15, 2008 10:39 am ]
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By the way ther is a Black Numenorean Marshal... :roll:
Author:  Mouth-of-Sauron [ Sun Jun 15, 2008 10:42 am ]
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http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catal ... Style=lotr


Here look below

Black numenorean warrior and Black Numenorean Marshal...


:roll:
Author:  pwner jaleno [ Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:10 pm ]
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:( :( :( :evil:

oh well use mine!!
he is cooler
Author:  Joansean [ Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:41 pm ]
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and he's also to overpowered!

Either tone him done or up the point cost.
Author:  Red Corsairs [ Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:51 pm ]
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Joansean wrote:
and he's also to overpowered!

Either tone him done or up the point cost.


Have to agree. Wandering Dunedain... he's not too expensive, he needs to be upped considerably or lose the Elven cloak and elven blade.
Author:  BilboOfTheWhiteTower [ Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:51 pm ]
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The Black Numenoreans and Morgul Knights have two leaders....Black Numenorean Marshal and Mouth of Sauron.
Author:  Joansean [ Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:54 pm ]
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BilboOfTheWhiteTower wrote:
The Black Numenoreans and Morgul Knights have two leaders....Black Numenorean Marshal and Mouth of Sauron.


Also true. IF you make such a hero , you could always use a background from the books , like Angamaitë & Sangahyando or Castamir etc.
Author:  pwner jaleno [ Sun Jun 15, 2008 7:15 pm ]
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I used the lotr point calculater here is the link

http://membres.lycos.fr/l01c/lotrcostcalc.html

also the Dark marshall is a ringwraith. Also the MOuth of Sauron is really bad. Sorry to all you MOS fans out there.

I would like a few more responses. Then i will look at the poll and comments and will change his profile to make people happy :D
Author:  Mouth-of-Sauron [ Sun Jun 15, 2008 7:53 pm ]
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Not Dark Marshal

But Black Numenorean Marshal

He is Bns leader...

and yours is too overpowered...


Whell i´m abig f MoS but i agree he is nothing remarkable...But the Mini itself is great and still i use him sometimes as he come sin handy when used with the Ringwraiths... :roll:
Author:  Mouth-of-Sauron [ Sun Jun 15, 2008 7:58 pm ]
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In truth your so called "commander" is even better than Shagrat ...

He might even be equal to Aragorn... :roll: So get the Voice of command and the elven cloack lost... Also lower his fight valvu and A / Ws. M/W/F

And make up some of your own special rules for him to stand out...
Author:  pwner jaleno [ Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:37 pm ]
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Daerak 140 points

F/S St D A W C M W F
6/- 4 6 3 2 5 3 1 2

Wargear

Ghul Marzad (elf blade) see main rule manule for details

Special Rules

Terror: see main rules manule
First of Our Kin: Daerak was the first black numenorean to serve the dark lord. as such he has been granted high status among saurons horde. When a courage test is failed within 6 inches of daerak he may kill that model. Therefore all models within 6 inches may reroll a failed courage test.
Author:  The newbie [ Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:22 pm ]
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automatic kills for a failed courage test...higher fight value than an elf....all models within 6" may reroll why? does he not have a standfast?

RETHINK HIM.
Author:  gaarew [ Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:24 pm ]
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The newbie wrote:
automatic kills for a failed courage test...higher fight value than an elf....all models within 6" may reroll why? does he not have a standfast?

RETHINK HIM.


I think he means...

if a friendly model within 6" fails a courage test, you may remove this model as a casualty, which grants all other friendly models within 6" of the BNM the ability to re-roll failed courage tests this turn.


I think.
Author:  The newbie [ Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:35 pm ]
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yes but heros take courage tests first so, so long as this commander passes his skill is useless...but thanks that makes a bit more sense.

- a failed courage test practically kills a unit anyway...plus if he fails his standfast hes gone so his skill is useless
Author:  gaarew [ Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:37 pm ]
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Unless he means all models within 6" of the model removed, get a re-roll, but like you say, a model won't fail a courage roll, because it is within 6" anyway...


Back to the drawing board methinks.
Author:  pwner jaleno [ Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:12 pm ]
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god i fail. :D How bout this. If a model within 6" of Dearak is defeated in combat by a weaker foe (go by points cost) This grants a +1 to all fight rolls for all evil models engaged in combat for the rest of the turn.

eg

Dearak is fighting along side 10 black numenoreans and a wargrider (all within 6 inches of him) the warg rider is beaten and daerak kills him. all the black numenoreans gain +1 to their fight rolls.


sorry about all the confusion :oops:
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