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| Author: | Erunion [ Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | [BCUpdate] Faction: Misty Mountains |
Faction: Misty Mountains, 1.0 A plague of Goblinkind has infested the Misty Mountains for countless millennia. Like a dirty tide, the goblins and their monstrous allies pour out of dark holes and crevasses to wreak death and destruction on any who dares to venture too close to their lairs. Starting Company 3 Goblin Warriors with spears 3 Goblin Warriors with shields 3 Goblin Warriors with Orc bows 2 Wild Wargs Equipment Shield, Spear, Orc Bow...............................1 Inf. Two-Handed Weapon (Prowler only)..........1 Inf. Throwing Weapon (Hero only)................1 Inf. Heavy Armor (Hero only)............................2 Inf. Promotions Goblin Warrior with spear → Goblin Prowler with two-handed weapon Goblin Warrior with shield → Goblin Prowler with shield Goblin Warrior with Orc bow → Goblin Prowler with Orc bow Goblin Prowler with shield → Gundabad Blackshield Goblin Prowler with two-handed weapon → Gundabad Blackshield with spear Reinforcements (D6) 1 -- No Reinforcement 2 -- Goblin Warrior with spear 3 -- Goblin Warrior with shield 4 -- Goblin Warrior with Orc bow 5 -- Choose one of the above 6 -- Roll again on the table below Reinforcements (Cont’d) 1-2 -- Goblin Prowler with choice of weapon 3-4 -- Wild Warg 5-6 -- Giant Spider Special Rules Shaman -- The Hero has begun to learn powerful incantations that spur his warband to fight through the most grievous wounds and paralyze his enemies with fear. The first time this rule is chosen, the hero gains the Fury magical power (as detailed in the main rulebook), that is cast on a 3+ and has a range of 6”. The second time, the hero gains the Transfix magical power which is cast on a 5+ and has a range of 12”. Monstrous Bulk (Wargs and Spiders only) -- The creature has survived countless battles and feasted on the bodies of numerous slain foes, growing to a monstrous size. The sheer weight and impetus of its attack will often bowl the enemy to the ground. The model is treated as a Cavalry model when working out the effects of charges. **A note about Misty Mountains Battle Companies** Because of the swarming nature of goblins and their allies, the maximum number of warriors/creatures in a Misty Mountains Battle Company is 20. **A note about Wargs and Spiders** Though cunning creatures, Wargs and Spiders have no grasp of tactics or leadership. As such, only creatures of their own species may benefit from their Stand Fast! rolls or benefit from their heroic actions. --------------------- This is what I've put together so far. I went a radically different direction with the Goblins as one of my buddies always complained that they were boring to play in extended BC campaigns. Rather than giving them greater numbers (the 20 warrior limit), I've given them access to some more elite/different troops in the Prowlers, Wargs and Spiders. I have left the Gundabad Black Shields out for now because, to be honest, I haven't seen their SBG stats, so I don't know how balanced they are. I also debated giving them a third special rule, since the one can only be used by Wargs and Spiders, but decided to stick with two for now. Let me know what you think. |
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| Author: | numenor [ Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [BCUpdate} Faction: Misty Mountains |
i think the most important thing is figuring out the best way to incorporate a cave troll into the battle company. ie. when should it become available? does it cost influence? is it an upgrade? Or do you trade goblin ability for greater numbers for troll? |
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| Author: | Erunion [ Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [BCUpdate} Faction: Misty Mountains |
I agree that we need a way to incorporate trolls into BCs. Rather than incorporating them directly into the BC, which would be difficult to balance, I think they should be more like a mercenary-type unit that can be "hired" with Influence Points. |
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| Author: | simmuskhan [ Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [BCUpdate} Faction: Misty Mountains |
I, personally, prefer numbers with gobbo armies as it's what makes them special. I don't even have any prowlers, just a hundred gobs, some trolls and a few spiders, bats and wargs. When you think gobs you think numbers + troll, though The Hobbit may shift from troll to wargs I think numbers are important. Just my opinion. |
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| Author: | Erunion [ Fri Jun 17, 2011 12:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [BCUpdate} Faction: Misty Mountains |
After taking another look at it, I think that you are right, simmuskhan. I am going to put the 20 member rule back in there. Even with the added benefit of more elite troops, the goblins just NEED to have numbers. |
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| Author: | spuds4ever [ Fri Jun 17, 2011 6:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [BCUpdate} Faction: Misty Mountains |
Will there be an upgrade option for Gundabad blackshields? |
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| Author: | Erunion [ Fri Jun 17, 2011 6:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [BCUpdate} Faction: Misty Mountains |
I had left the Blackshields out because I don't have access to their SBG profile. If they are not overpowered and fit with the theme of a roving warband, then I see no reason why they couldn't be included. |
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| Author: | theavenger001 [ Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [BCUpdate} Faction: Misty Mountains |
The blackshields have strength four and defence six, so in a BC they could be pretty strong. Maybe have a goblin prowler w/ shield promote to Blackshield w/ shield. and prowler w/ 2-weapon promote to blackshield with spear, and shield. I know that in BC's it's rare for anyone to last for too long, the chances of someone getting promoted twice is rare, but blackshields are better than Womt. 
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| Author: | Erunion [ Fri Jun 17, 2011 4:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [BCUpdate} Faction: Misty Mountains |
That sounds like a good idea. I'll add the Blackshields now. |
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| Author: | Dezartfox [ Sat Aug 13, 2011 7:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [BCUpdate} Faction: Misty Mountains |
Throwing Weapon (Prowler only)................1 Inf. Don't prowlers come with throwing weapons as standard? |
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| Author: | Erunion [ Sat Aug 13, 2011 2:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [BCUpdate} Faction: Misty Mountains |
Oops. That was supposed to say Heroes only. Fixing it now! |
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| Author: | Red Corsairs [ Sun Aug 14, 2011 3:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [BCUpdate} Faction: Misty Mountains |
Again great work with these Battle Company thread Jonathan. I hope you don't mind, but when updating my LOTR SBG Resource List thread I have linked to all of your Battle Company threads in the BC section as I find they are valuable resources. |
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| Author: | Erunion [ Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [BCUpdate} Faction: Misty Mountains |
Thanks, Jake. I really enjoyed working on them, and I’m honored that you considered them worthy of being included. I’m planning on eventually compiling all of them together with some extra material that I’m working on (scenarios, etc.) into a big .pdf file that people can download/print for use. When that is finished, I was hoping that we could perhaps host it here on the OR as a resource for all the players. |
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| Author: | Hill-Troll [ Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [BCUpdate] Faction: Misty Mountains |
Isn't this missing an advance table? |
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| Author: | Hill-Troll [ Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [BCUpdate] Faction: Misty Mountains |
Never mind, just read your battle companies rules. |
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