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| Author: | SuicidalMarsbar [ Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Elven cloaks, anti-magic tools? |
I'm just wondering what everyone's position is on elven cloaks effectiveness as anti magic equipment? every complains about boromir of gondor being "susceptible to magic" but if you give him an elf cloak and enough men, he can't even be targeted by spells, so why isn't this tactic employed by everyone as a measure against ringwraiths? |
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| Author: | hithero [ Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Elven cloaks, anti-magic tools? |
Cloaks only work outside of 6" and he is normally mounted anyway so the cloak won't work. |
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| Author: | cereal_theif [ Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Elven cloaks, anti-magic tools? |
as Hithero says, as all the wraith needs to do is be within 6inch and he has you pwned there isnt much point unless you can present enough targets that makes boromir bait. |
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| Author: | fritskuhntm [ Fri Sep 09, 2011 8:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Elven cloaks, anti-magic tools? |
But the cloak cuts the wraith's spell range in half...and 6"/14cm is within charge range. To force the wraith to get that close seems a huge advantage. Can a wraith use part of his move to step within range, cast his spell, then use the rest of the move to back out of charging distance? Even so, an Elven Cloak seems well worth the points cost for an unmounted hero. I watched Gimli killed entirely by Black Darts as the Undying lounged at a safe distance. As unexperienced as I am, I am sold on Cloaks. Convince me otherwise...am I missing something? |
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| Author: | whafrog [ Fri Sep 09, 2011 1:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Elven cloaks, anti-magic tools? |
Cutting the range seems like a good bargain for points spent to me. Also cuts down on those stray arrows. |
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| Author: | Beowulf03809 [ Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Elven cloaks, anti-magic tools? |
One thing to consider though is equipment availability if playing LoME rules. I don't have a copy with me but I know, for example, that Legolas from the Thranduil's Halls list does not have access to armor but does have it as part of the Fellowship. So if you want him armored you need to have another Hero from the Halls as well. I thought Boromir would only have Cloak access as a member of Fellowship. Might be wrong. |
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| Author: | theavenger001 [ Fri Sep 09, 2011 5:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Elven cloaks, anti-magic tools? |
Yeah I would say it's worth it, but just as long as you remember that it's cutting down on the magic, not eliminating it. And yes you can step into range, cast, then move away. |
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| Author: | fritskuhntm [ Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Elven cloaks, anti-magic tools? |
whafrog wrote: Cutting the range seems like a good bargain for points spent to me. Also cuts down on those stray arrows. 'stray arrows' from in range---but no protection from 'accidental' volley fire? Seems a glitch in the rules: the enemy will always choose to target an elven cloaked Legolas, even though technically my opponnent cannot see him to target.... So that fourth volley shot my opponent gets to target will always 'accidentally' find its way to Legolas? I have to put him and Sentinels and Radagast a full 14cm away from anyone to avoid such Chosen Target 'accidents' ? I may be off topic... |
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| Author: | hithero [ Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Elven cloaks, anti-magic tools? |
It's not a glitch at all, you don't need to see a volley fire target so an elven cloak has no benefit. It's no different from say targeting an Orc Shaman through volley fire, a great, soft target. |
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