Listen guys one thing got my atention and is bothering me still...

In any kind of Campaing when a hero dies or the good side wins the consequences are clear but what if the evil wins one scenario in the campaing? does it still go on? or is it stoped?

Im quessing that it is imidiatley stope or something cause in lots of cases it is very useful for good side to lose easily (like in the Shadow in the East campaing the first scenario)


help...much aproved

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so no one don't want to help out an o'gamer here? oke fine by me

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Well, the Journey books allow the Good side to re-roll one dice for stat recovery, and if the Evil side won the previous game, they can force the Good side to re-roll one dice.

If characters die, you just carry on without them.

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I never thought about that. I guess the storyline idea is that the next scenario continues regardless of the outcome of the first. Like in the Shadow in the East campaign, the second scenario is about cirion and his warriors running after away after Khamul abushes them, so i guess for that one the evil side is supposed to win.

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No no no...if you read it throuh...

The winning conditions (in 1s scenario) is that if there is no good model with 14cm of the towr of amon barad then the evil wins...

and then the text in 2nd scenario indicates that those warriors who survive the 1st scenario will play part in this scenario... although yes Cirion will die but he can get his stats back b D6/ D3 but still if he(the opponent) gets all those warriors just for failin ON PURPOSE then its bloody unfair... i think...

Wierd...and the thing is it aint stated anywhere... what happens... There should be some kinda impact on the WIN/LOSE/DRAW outcome... soo cunfusing

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I think theres some rules specifying it in the two towers and return of the king journey books. I don't remember much about them, but thats where to look if you want specifics. sorry i couldn't be more of a help.

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not int the return of the king (i have it) and thus it cn't be in the two (the old ones I mean) maybe in the main rules? hmm ...

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It all depends on how many troops the Good player loses in the "Fall of Amon Barad" scenario. If he has fewer than 9 (out of his starting 18 ) then he's not going to be at full strength for the next scenario.

but what if he loses on purpose? lik moes out of the 14cm of the tower... and thus saves he troops and thus he has more survivors for the next scenario...?

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You need to stop him from doing so. A good Black Dart or a few rounds of archery should do the trick.

no we havent even played so... But im calculating the odds as the similar thingws occured in the Fall of the Necromancer...

he said that he wound spend any might/will of fate in the game and he will easily let the herose die as they will regain the wounds pretty fast witha D6 and that really got me confused because it was never state what happens if the hero dies or etc, or if he fails a scenario...

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I second that. It's not in ROTK or TTT I have both. could someone please point out which book and page number that mentions the rule.

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OFTENTIME,THE SHADOWS SERVE NOT ONLY TO CONCEAL THOSE WHO WISH TO DO EVIL,BUT ALSO PROTECT THOSE WHO SEEK TO DO GOOD

Fall of the Necromancer - Page 9 - Text box - The Fall of the Necromancer Campaign...

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I meant that if he dies with full M/W/F what happens to those points...?

and what happens if the hero dies and the sceario was won by the evil...?

or what happens if the hero survives but the good loses the scenario?

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Why would he die with all his Fate left? It doesn't make sense. Page 9 of FotN puts it pretty clearly, and I'd use those guidelines for any other campaigns.

As far as letting himself lose, I thought that at the end, both players count up the number of scenarios they won and whoever won the most is the overall victor.

ok, I got the test from FotN but let me get this straight:

1. only good guys can do that (why not evil heroes too? is that fair?)
2. The Hero can get up to 6 points, just use them to the max. of their original status W/Mt/Wl/Ft.
3. Good Heroe will never really die. the D6 will give him at least the 1 point necessary to restore his wounds to over 0, so he'll always be available, just may be not with their full status for the next scenario.

hope I got that right.

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Nah you don't get it... maybe its me...

What if me opponent wants them to be at full strenght at the last scenario...

And if the good guy lets his herose run out of Wounds with out using his might/will an fate then regaining those 2 or 3 wounds with a D6 isnt too hard you know...?

But i would say that the last scenario is the mot decisive one...

@MuslimRohhirrim: And about the bad guys. hmm most of the scenariouse give the evil much less troopsand herose (points wise) so it is fair...

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