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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 12:26 pm 
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So this is my new elven force. Please comment.

#Thranduils Halls#

1x Legolas (+Armour) 95

1x Banner 42

1x Captain (+bw) 70

8x WE /w spear (+td) 80

8x WE /w elven-blade (+td) 80

5x WE /w elven-bow 55

3x Sentinel 75


Models: 27
Breakpoint: 13
Bw's: 8 (33%)
Might: 5

I didn't only try to build a solid force but also to use as many, of the models i bought, as possible. Maybe i should drop either one sentinel or the banner but i don't really feel like buying another box of woodelven only to fill the points with 3-4 models without bow. What do you think?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:27 pm 
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I think you'll have real trouble with this as you don't have enough numbers. Around 35 is a good minimum, and 40 is sweetness. I like Sentinels, it might be fun to drop the captain and banner and see if a WE horde works.

If you don't want to buy more wood elves you might consider some Galadhrim, but you'll need the captain to ally them in.
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I agree with whafrog that your numbers are low. 13 is a pretty low breakpoint.

I like to use some Galadhrim with my wood elves, as whafrog also suggested. I'd drop the banner and maybe a sentinel and take out the wood elf captain from the Thranduil list and add him from the Lothlorien list with some Galadhrim. Or if you want to stick to wood elves, just use more wood elves with blade.

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I would really say to put in the time and money for another box of WEs if you're serious about playing them. Your numbers shouldn't need to be that low and it will hurt you.

In a 500 point force I've found 2 Sentinels to be a max. I often played my SBG WEs with only one at that point level, but then he's so much of a prime target that the second is nice backup.

I have not found the Banner for the Wood Elves worth the points at this level. Sometimes in larger games. Because they are the cheapest of all Elves you often don't have the outnumbered prob that Elves normally suffer from, you have a high Fight value and you have spear support options. The banner is a point sink when you need numbers, and the numbers will more than make up for the lost banner.

For Heroes, At 500 points, you may be able to get away with just Leggy though a second Hero does help. If you drop the banner, use the points to upgrade your captain to Thranduil. He's not really that much more in points but a lot more in quality and I think you'll really appreciate the difference. 8) He's a deadly shot, has very good combat abilities and his Special Rule can be a game-turning event if timed right (not quite as good as a well placed Natures Wrath, but close :D ).

With two Sentinels I'd suggest this:

Legolas w/ Elf Bow and Armor
Thranduil

2x WE Sentinels
9x WE w/ Bow
8x WE with Spear
12x WE with Elf Blade and TD

If you want a little more models, you can drop one Sentinel, add another WE with bow (same shots) and two with Spear. Same points, 2 extra models.

Since my Spear models are supporting fights about 50% of the time, I find that giving them TDs is sometimes a waste of points (another model has already engaged the target). But this is not a hard/fast rule for me and I did very well at GD a couple years back with a force that had about half of my Spears also using TDs.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:41 pm 
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Legolas can't take armour in Thranduil's Halls army list. You would have to ally him in then if you want armour.
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That's why Thranduil is there in my lists. It seems daddy doesn't let anyone except himself wear any armor. Must cut down on threats from within... :rofl:

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:30 am 
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Beowulf, isn't your list 1 over on bows?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:57 am 
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:oops: Sorry, you're right.

Should have been 8 w/bow, 12 w/ blade+td, 9 w/ spear. That's still a good amount of quality bows for a 500pt force, plus 12 Throwing Daggers (which is also deadly w/ Wood Elves, even if only at short range).

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I like Beowulfs list more. It seems more fun to use because it has thranduil and legolas.
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