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 Post subject: Elven Force With Allies
PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:25 pm 
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Hi guys, I'm new to the One Ring.
I'm wondering how to create a powerful army list with the models I have, (but I can easily get some more).

I currently have:
38 high elf warriors (8 with elven blades, 32 with bows (I'm panning on converting these)).
12 galadhrim warriors
12 Warriors of Rohan
6 riders of rohan
8 men of Numenor

The fellowship
Rohan captain
Eomer mounted
Elrond
Gil-Galad
Glorfindel mounted
Elladan
Elrohir
Haldir
Fili (from the hobbit)

For Christmas, I'm hoping for:
Wood elf sentinels
high elf command
Galadhrim knights
40 or so high elves

My main opponents will be Isenguard and Rohan

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Lord Elrond
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 Post subject: Re: Elven Force With Allies
PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:19 pm 
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Is there any particular reason why noone has replied to this post?

Have I said or done something wrong?

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 Post subject: Re: Elven Force With Allies
PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:36 pm 
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How large of a game are you playing, a point range might help the more experience players give you some tips on what to do.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:39 pm 
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I'm not really sure
Just for playing uncompetitively at the moment

Who do you think would ally well with the elves in, say 1500 points?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:31 am 
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1500 points is a big army, and pretty much any ally will do, it just depends what you want the army to look like. Looks like you have a good start with Rohan, so you might as well start there, maybe add Erkenbrand as a good mid-range hero (cheaper than Eomer, and as effective...in some ways moreso). All RoR can now use their bows, which is pretty nice.

Army building takes a while, you generally won't get a lot of responses unless you at least do the basic work yourself and then ask for opinions on your list. You can play around with army lists with this handy spreadsheet:

http://www.thelastalliance.com/viewtopi ... &start=130
(check the signature)

And usually you'll want to tailor your army to what you personally like. There are a lot of ways to make a "powerful" army, the great thing about the game is how many ways there are to do that. However, there are a few general tips:

First, learn the game with what you have. That will help guide you towards the army you want.
It doesn't look like many of your models have spears, a box of wood elves can help with that. Spears are important, if you don't have them you need banners or some other way to add dice to a situation. Or if you're focusing on high elves, you might want some high elf with spear + shield, but they're metal/finecast, and pricey.
Even though mobile shooting has taken a hit, you will still want to maximize your bows.
In many ways the defence sweet-spot is D3 and D5 (and D7 for heroes) for good armies, because evil shooting is S2 and S4, and many armies have S4 warriors. So Galadhrim without shields are often wasted (dying twice as easily) unless you're up against evil men, or basic goblins and orcs. This can mean high elves with shields often don't add much, but there's something comforting about the look of them so I don't convert :)
The heroes you have are all good for their points. Personally I skip Haldir...if I want a bowman I take Legolas, and if I want a fighter I take Rumil. The Twins are great, more effective than Glorfindel for warrior-chewing, but Glorfindel is great for handling wraiths and other big nasties.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:40 am 
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I know I don't have many with spears, that'd why in going to convert them to save the cost. I also found a way to get shields without buying the spearmen

Thanks for your advice, Whafrog

You're right, that new FAQ gives the riders of Rohan a great advantage

Do you think they'll do the same for the rivendell knights being released in February, as these have bows on their profile as well?

Thanks
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:04 am 
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LordElrond wrote:
I know I don't have many with spears, that'd why in going to convert them to save the cost. I also found a way to get shields without buying the spearmen

Thanks for your advice, Whafrog

You're right, that new FAQ gives the riders of Rohan a great advantage

Do you think they'll do the same for the rivendell knights being released in February, as these have bows on their profile as well?

Thanks


Rivendell Knights have the same rule as the RoR for their bows.
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 Post subject: Re: Elven Force With Allies
PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:08 am 
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Thanks, they'll be deadly.

I'll be getting some in February, as soon as they are released.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:56 pm 
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As you will have noticed, I decided to scrap the allies idea and just go for a pure elven force.

Thanks anyway guys,as I have still learnt a few things from this thread.
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