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Elessar95
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Post subject: 600pt Strider and Minas Tirith List
Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:40 pm
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Joined: Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:29 am Posts: 74
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600 Pts - The Fellowship Roster
1 Warband @ 190 pts 1 Aragorn - Strider (Hand Weapon; Armour; Mighty Hero; Protect the Ringbearer; Elven Cloak)
1 Warband [mt] @ 155 pts (Captain of Minas Tirith) 1 Captain of Minas Tirith [mt] (Hand Weapon; Heavy Armour; Shield) 8 Warrior of Minas Tirith [mt] (Hand Weapon; Heavy Armour; Shield) 4 Warrior of Minas Tirith [mt] (Hand Weapon; Spear; Heavy Armour; Shield)
1 Warband [mt] @ 150 pts (Captain of Minas Tirith) 1 Captain of Minas Tirith [mt] (Hand Weapon; Heavy Armour) 4 Warrior of Minas Tirith [mt] (Hand Weapon; Heavy Armour; Shield) 4 Warrior of Minas Tirith [mt] (Hand Weapon; Spear; Heavy Armour; Shield) 4 Warrior of Minas Tirith [mt] (Hand Weapon; Bow; Heavy Armour)
1 Warband [mt] @ 105 pts (Denethor, Steward of Gondor) 1 Denethor, Steward of Gondor [mt] (Hand Weapon; Armour; Broken Mind) 3 Citadel Guard [mt] (Hand Weapon; Spear; Heavy Armour; Bodyguard) 6 Warrior of Minas Tirith [mt] (Hand Weapon; Bow; Heavy Armour)
Total Roster Cost: 600
Is this Adepticon worthy? Hopefully I'm going to this Adepticon this year so I would appreciate if someone who went or ran a tournament could tell me how well this list could do.
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Galanur
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Post subject: Re: 600pt Strider and Minas Tirith List
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:45 am
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Joined: Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:28 am Posts: 1389
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hmm not sure really.... 4+ standing 5+ on the move, I think better are citadel guards with longbow, well armoured good shooting value and still the bodyguard rule.
Soo lets me think
1st warband group of captain and 12 warriors do the front blocking wall 2nd warband group its like auxiliary, good a bit all round munition depending on your needs to strengthen the main wall, also a flanking group 3rd group is the more range elitist group staying back shooting and managing the rear of the army providing support to front and flank pickig outsiders and stranglers or least slow down wall breach models or cavalry Aragorn in bettewn to handle the holes and slice up hordes on models and invoke heroic actions pretty much often to boost your might supply.
Hard choice but the balance of a MT army is there.... Although I like the numbers and the planning, you lack on offensive units, the so called wall breachers like knights to go into a flank and punch a hole through enemy army. One of your warbands might get into big trouble if you get harassed by big units of cavalry like cheap orc captain and warg riders, and far worst if you get train hit by morgul knights and alike, hope aragorn is in there when then happen. and remember if this is your final thought, keep em together if you see amass of knights. Or give a unit a full elitist bodyguard type with superior fight, like fountain guards with shields or such... they wont be twelve but if you afford 8 to 10 would be great I think, all defence 7 fight 4 and spears and bodyguard rule.
I do think something is really lacking here on the core...
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Elessar95
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Post subject: Re: 600pt Strider and Minas Tirith List
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:50 am
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Joined: Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:29 am Posts: 74
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Thanks for your advice. Well next Saturday I am play testing this list. What could be changed besides adding in knights?
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Galanur
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Post subject: Re: 600pt Strider and Minas Tirith List
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:53 am
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Joined: Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:28 am Posts: 1389
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Perhaps replace those MT with bow on denethor´s group with rangers... slightly less armour but better shooting and fight value. Or get denethor in the flank side group since hes still decent with defence 5 and fight 5 for being cheap.
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Elessar95
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Post subject: Re: 600pt Strider and Minas Tirith List
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:59 am
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Joined: Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:29 am Posts: 74
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Ok. Should I add the citadel guards to the 2nd warband and have denethor's warband as shooting?
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Galanur
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Post subject: Re: 600pt Strider and Minas Tirith List
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:01 am
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Joined: Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:28 am Posts: 1389
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hmmm why that aragorn instead of the regular? just asking
I dont have the book here with me.. but maybe
1 solid block way it is Denethor group is the elitist flanking for melee with better fight value 1 cappy in the back with the rangers...
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Elessar95
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Post subject: Re: 600pt Strider and Minas Tirith List
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:08 am
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Joined: Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:29 am Posts: 74
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I wanted to try Aragorn with an elven cloak and I was trying to fit numbers as well. Where should i put the guards with the 2nd warband and move denethor in there and move the captain to the all shooting? Is that what you are saying?
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Galanur
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Post subject: Re: 600pt Strider and Minas Tirith List
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:21 am
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Joined: Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:28 am Posts: 1389
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Get denethor to the best fighting group, take a chance on his fight 5 or instead replace a captain for a king well armoured, fight 5 boost your lines alot
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Elessar95
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Post subject: Re: 600pt Strider and Minas Tirith List
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:50 am
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Joined: Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:29 am Posts: 74
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Defence 6 or 7 on the King? I'm at 35 models now with the switching around is that good even for a big tournament?
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SuicidalMarsbar
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Post subject: Re: 600pt Strider and Minas Tirith List
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:43 am
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Joined: Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:14 am Posts: 1712
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If you are not going to mount Aragorn then may I suggest you think about having him lead a small contingent of Arnor warriors? They are fight 4, defence 6, and cost a point less than a minas tirith warrior with a shield and spear despite having the same wargear.
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Galanur
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Post subject: Re: 600pt Strider and Minas Tirith List
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 11:54 am
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Joined: Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:28 am Posts: 1389
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I do warn you evil armies will be dwimmerlaik alot, they will keep him cheap so he just benefit with his skill, if scum enough they might even try also the shadow lord.
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Elessar95
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Post subject: Re: 600pt Strider and Minas Tirith List
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:37 pm
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Joined: Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:29 am Posts: 74
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This is the fellowship Aragorn and not the one from Arnor. This is what I have so far.
600 Pts - The Fellowship Roster
1 Warband @ 190 pts . . 1 Aragorn - Strider (Hand Weapon; Armour; Mighty Hero; Protect the Ringbearer; Elven Cloak)
1 Warband [mt] @ 170 pts (King of Men) . . 1 King of Men [mt] (Hand Weapon; Armour; Heavy Armour; Shield) . . 8 Warrior of Minas Tirith [mt] (Hand Weapon; Heavy Armour; Shield) . . 4 Warrior of Minas Tirith [mt] (Hand Weapon; Spear; Heavy Armour; Shield)
1 Warband [mt] @ 134 pts (Denethor, Steward of Gondor) . . 1 Denethor, Steward of Gondor [mt] (Hand Weapon; Armour; Broken Mind) . . 4 Citadel Guard [mt] (Hand Weapon; Spear; Heavy Armour; Bodyguard) . . 4 Warrior of Minas Tirith [mt] (Hand Weapon; Heavy Armour; Shield) . . 4 Warrior of Minas Tirith [mt] (Hand Weapon; Spear; Heavy Armour; Shield)
1 Warband [mt] @ 106 pts (Captain of Minas Tirith) . . 1 Captain of Minas Tirith [mt] (Hand Weapon; Heavy Armour) . . 7 Ranger of Gondor [mt] (Hand Weapon; Bow; Armour)
Total Roster Cost: 600
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SouthernDunedain
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Post subject: Re: 600pt Strider and Minas Tirith List
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 3:21 pm
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Joined: Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:30 am Posts: 2793 Location: In the Tardis Bar Images: 1
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I have to ask, what is protect the ringbearer?
_________________ 12th GBHL 2013. 13th GBHL 2014 9th GBHL 2015Mid Sussex Wargamers
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Elessar95
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Post subject: Re: 600pt Strider and Minas Tirith List
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 3:30 pm
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Joined: Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:29 am Posts: 74
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As long as frodo is alive his warband automatically passes courage tests.
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Galanur
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Post subject: Re: 600pt Strider and Minas Tirith List
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 4:07 pm
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Joined: Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:28 am Posts: 1389
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its a tricky rule :P
Mostly useless as it is except if you face hobbit army in there lol and if the hobbits got gandalf with terror, this can be somesort usefull XD
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SouthernDunedain
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Post subject: Re: 600pt Strider and Minas Tirith List
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 4:08 pm
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Joined: Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:30 am Posts: 2793 Location: In the Tardis Bar Images: 1
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Ah that's the generic fellowship rule. That's why I didn't recognise it.
_________________ 12th GBHL 2013. 13th GBHL 2014 9th GBHL 2015Mid Sussex Wargamers
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Galanur
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Post subject: Re: 600pt Strider and Minas Tirith List
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:25 pm
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Joined: Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:28 am Posts: 1389
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Seems you got more quality fight on your lines, good heroes with good fight value are always welcome.
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Elessar95
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Post subject: Re: 600pt Strider and Minas Tirith List
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:45 pm
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Joined: Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:29 am Posts: 74
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So this version is the one that I should use?
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Grungehog
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Post subject: Re: 600pt Strider and Minas Tirith List
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:37 pm
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Joined: Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:36 pm Posts: 918 Location: in the blackpit
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The protect the ringbearer rule only applies if Frodo is in you force.
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Galanur
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Post subject: Re: 600pt Strider and Minas Tirith List
Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:41 pm
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