All times are UTC


It is currently Fri Nov 22, 2024 5:22 pm



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 13 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: how to defeat Dwalin
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:29 am 
Wayfarer
Wayfarer
Offline

Joined: Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:25 am
Posts: 24
Hi,

was playing the hobbits SBG and was using goblins against Thorin's company.


Any strategy to defeat Dwalin? I felt he is rather too strong for normal goblin soldier to defeat em. Tried 3 against 1 but was swept one shot by him.
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: how to defeat Dwalin
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:31 am 
Elven Elder
Elven Elder
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sat Jul 21, 2012 7:30 am
Posts: 2793
Location: In the Tardis Bar
Images: 1
Goblin king? Surround and trap him with spear support? Immobilise him?

_________________
12th GBHL 2013.
13th GBHL 2014
9th GBHL 2015



Mid Sussex Wargamers
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: how to defeat Dwalin
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:18 am 
Craftsman
Craftsman
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:55 pm
Posts: 396
Location: United Kingdom
Well seeing as you can get over 20 goblins for his points cost it shouldn't be too hard to mob him

_________________
Soon Master Elf, you will enjoy the fabled hospitality of the Dwarves! Roaring fires, malt beer, red meat off the bone!
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: how to defeat Dwalin
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:32 am 
Kinsman
Kinsman
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:05 am
Posts: 189
3 against one sounds a lot but Dwalin can take a lot more. Don't forget the Chittering Hordes rule, and try using a goblin captain (who also benefits from this rule) with a heroic strike to bring him down (if possible, after reducing his own might down).

Good luck
VG

_________________
"Dark have been my dreams of late."
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: how to defeat Dwalin
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 2:13 pm 
Loremaster
Loremaster
Offline

Joined: Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:14 pm
Posts: 1556
Location: England
Images: 17
Sometimes its best to fight the shooty stuff and shoot the fighty stuff! I would honestly recommend mobbing him with goblins to bring his might down etc, except when the Goblin King is in range I would suggest throwing goblins at him. Make sure that he is in combat with preferably 1 goblin at a time to raise your chance of hitting him. The goblin king hits on a 5+ but will damage the blighter on 3+.

If you are fighting in Goblin Town whereby if the Goblin King wins a fight he can choose to use a Monsterous Power attack I would suggest picking off the weaker dwarves first by Hurling them of the decking into the bottomless pit which is an instant lights out. I have played one battle on a Goblin Town board and literally half my force including Radagast were literally thrown to their deaths, fate roll will be no use here!
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: how to defeat Dwalin
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:01 pm 
Loremaster
Loremaster
Offline

Joined: Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:14 pm
Posts: 1556
Location: England
Images: 17
I couldn't resist posting an image of the Goblin King standing victorious on his home turf (which he is literally as evolved as a great white shark to dominate) just after he had despatched poor Fili, my last surviving dwarf!


You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: how to defeat Dwalin
PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:48 pm 
Craftsman
Craftsman
Offline

Joined: Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:15 am
Posts: 412
Location: Bodmin, UK
Mob him and be hitting him with all of the various special strikes you have available, after all if he wins the dice roll he's gonna destroy your Goblins anyway, and if he loses your guys have lots of funky, more powerful hits. If you can, have the Captain, Grinnah or the Gobbo King in the fight, to make him blow all of his Might. He'll only be killing one or two a turn, and you can field a Goblin captain and a good number of goblins (about 15 I think) for his points cost. Given time, you'll wear down his Might and Fate reserves. It'll probably cost you most of your goblins, but that's what they're there for!

_________________
See my WIP thread here. viewtopic.php?f=50&t=25624
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: how to defeat Dwalin
PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:57 am 
Wayfarer
Wayfarer
Offline

Joined: Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:25 am
Posts: 24
Allright!!! will try everyone recommendations. Well he is strong in that a 3+ he can wound a goblin which makes it easy for him to kill my goblin surrounding him.

I tried 6 vs 1 3 back support still same the front 3 got killed off. He is a strong character.

Well i could not surround him with my 3 strongest characters as their hands are tied up going against Gloin and Thorin as well. So was thinking of perhaps a strategy that allows me to wound him using normal goblins.
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: how to defeat Dwalin
PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:07 pm 
Kinsman
Kinsman
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:05 am
Posts: 189
Either throw him, or throw someone at him to knock him down then get a charge on him asap. That way, he can't fight back and you'll get double strikes!

VG

_________________
"Dark have been my dreams of late."
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: how to defeat Dwalin
PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:46 pm 
Craftsman
Craftsman
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:55 pm
Posts: 396
Location: United Kingdom
Try sending one goblin at a time against him then whilst you attack the rest of the dwarves, once you have dealt with them you can focus on Dwalin.

_________________
Soon Master Elf, you will enjoy the fabled hospitality of the Dwarves! Roaring fires, malt beer, red meat off the bone!
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: how to defeat Dwalin
PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:59 pm 
Loremaster
Loremaster
Offline

Joined: Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:14 pm
Posts: 1556
Location: England
Images: 17
Scib wrote:
Try sending one goblin at a time against him then whilst you attack the rest of the dwarves, once you have dealt with them you can focus on Dwalin.


If you do go down that route, make sure that the goblin is supported by another with the "chittering hordes rule", the only thing is, that if you win the fight your hardly going to be able to put the boot in with one goblin!

If you surround him with 6 supported goblins and win, thats' 24 strength 3 hits against him all with a 1 in 3 chance of wounding him! Don't fanny around, goblins are dirt cheap and expendable, but their strength is in numbers and don't be afraid to use it.
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: how to defeat Dwalin
PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 12:59 am 
Wayfarer
Wayfarer
Offline

Joined: Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:25 am
Posts: 24
Bilbo wrote:
Scib wrote:
Try sending one goblin at a time against him then whilst you attack the rest of the dwarves, once you have dealt with them you can focus on Dwalin.


If you do go down that route, make sure that the goblin is supported by another with the "chittering hordes rule", the only thing is, that if you win the fight your hardly going to be able to put the boot in with one goblin!

If you surround him with 6 supported goblins and win, thats' 24 strength 3 hits against him all with a 1 in 3 chance of wounding him! Don't fanny around, goblins are dirt cheap and expendable, but their strength is in numbers and don't be afraid to use it.



Well the thing is Dwalin Strength is greater than the goblin. So most of the time when i managed to roll a 6 it has high chances of tying with him on a 6 roll and he wins with strength comparison. So pretty hard to win a duel even surrounded. Of course haha might need to wait for a day for my opponent to have a bad rolling day.
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: how to defeat Dwalin
PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:01 am 
Loremaster
Loremaster
Offline

Joined: Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:14 pm
Posts: 1556
Location: England
Images: 17
Dwalin has odds of 50% of rolling a natural six, if you can surround him with at least 6 models you should on average roll one 6, if they are backed up the odds will naturally rise. Dwalin has two points of might which he may well have to use in one turn. The odds are in your favour of killing him outright if you can surround him supported in six turns, if he has a particularly low roll it could well be one!
Top
  Profile  
Reply with quote  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 13 posts ] 

All times are UTC


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 156 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to: